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Mangrasky

Doomheim

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#41 - 2017-05-19 19:35:56 UTC

Yebo Lakatosh wrote:

Wanted to pick one from your list for a one-word reply. I particularly like "Sissy".

But mehh, mood passed towards the end. Vets would say you'll come back anyways. Hope the good fellow having your stuff will give loan on friendly terms.

Hey buddy, you look like a rubber boat captain, that made it happily from lybia to europe. Glad you doing well.

Mangrasky

Doomheim

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#42 - 2017-05-19 19:37:32 UTC

Drekkenn wrote:

Funny, Every time I think about coming back I'll run into a post like this and it totally reminds me of all the things I hate about the game. And as you said you get "it's eve, get over it" So like you and probably many thousands of folks, we wait for another cool space MMO :)

I hear you, my hopes lie actually on SC..they do all there to insure people that they have better mechanics to prevent scum from being as happy (ingame and in the forums) as he is here. Lets hope the best. What?

Mangrasky

Doomheim

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#43 - 2017-05-19 19:42:42 UTC

Remyra Nark wrote:

Mangrasky, you are not alone in this. I totally understand you, the reasons that brought you to the point you are right now. All I can say is, I'm sorry you experienced this side of eve... even though it's not hard to experience this side of eve. It seems that 9 out of 10 people in eve are representing that side. I would advise you to take pleasure when meeting that 1 out of 10 people who play this game to help others, to experience eve together, but I fear it is too late for that.
So, all I can say now is good luck mate. I hope you find a game with a community that will not call you "sissy", "whinner", or anything bad for just trying to find your steps in it.
o7

Thanks for the heads up, and what you adviced i tried also..seeing the good sides in community, the fair people. But unfortunately the many bad and disguisting sides drag me down much more then people like you lifted me up. As you said 9 sick on 1 fair.
It was that hard that my real life started to bench to the bad side also..i was more aggressive and emotional and uncontrolled after some weeks. No game should do this to someone.
Thanks for your advice and the best wishes to you also.

Mangrasky

Doomheim

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#44 - 2017-05-19 19:47:01 UTC

Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:

Why should anything that happens in a video game cause a person actual emotional pain? Seems to me some people take things in this game much too seriously.

Welp...gl in your future gaming endeavors, OP. I do hope you come back to EvE as you know it has a lot of interesting things to it...just don't let people upset you.

edit: Who cares what others say about you? Don't let it get to you. Nobody but you controls your reactions.

Well, to answer your first part..you get with your emotions into a game, the first step is fun, fun is an emotion and bang..you're in. Problem is, the game bought you then because when you have fun, you have pain when worse things happen. Without any emotions i would never play a game, what for ?

You'e edit is very true, i often try this, sometimes it works but at a certain points its just to much. Imagine someone spits you into your face, at a certain point you would hit him..after the 3rd spit or after 10th, right ?

Mangrasky

Doomheim

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#45 - 2017-05-19 19:55:56 UTC

Blade Darth wrote:

Can I have your stuff?

Aaanyway
I read some of this and... Jesus..

Somebody placed a bounty? Who cares, bounties don't work so they wasted money for nothing. Or maybe just liked you.
That's how I show affection. Actually I prefer shooting caldari navy antimatter and making fart noises on TS but you get the idea.

Bumped out of a belt? Ever thought of changing systems (there is like 10.000 of those) or hitting the orbit button (hard to bump)?

Null-bearing not a thing? Mine neither. Luckily there are other activities. HS is a tutorial zone.

Maybe online games are not for you at all? Personally I'd seek assistance if someone being mean in a tutorial zone (or on forums) would make me feel uncomfortable. That's human interaction, it's like it is. Eve still has one of the (if not the) most mature communities.

If you are a person that has claims to itself i give you the content to work at in your next training lesson: ignorance.

Mangrasky

Doomheim

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#46 - 2017-05-19 20:02:48 UTC

Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

Secondly I think that he has never understood the nature of the game that he's been playing for a decade.

Eve is a PvP game, whether you want it or not, when you log in you consent to any PvP that finds you. If you whine about your losses in any other PvP game you'll get the same reaction as you get here; ridicule.

I just answer to this. I heared your argument 1000 times, its old like history and as stupid as it also.

"Planet earth is a pvp-world. There are safe zones, but you can murder everywhere and you can be murdered everyhwere, this means: If you dont like murdering or getting murdered, if you try to stay out of this or if YOU DARE TO COMPLAIN about it, you are wrong here."

Yes a game i can leave, real life i can not. But when i really like this game, why should i leave it that quick ? I say, that eve has big pvp-space, many areas. But this doesnt mean that all have to like pvp, to play pvp or even accept pvp as a playstile, when there are totally different playstiles possible too.
Same lesson for you: fight your ignorance.


Mangrasky Doomheim Likes received: 7	#47 - 2017-05-19 20:04:35 UTC DaReaper wrote: ... ok then.. as a 14 year vet, i'd like your stuff. I'll keep it safe until you return, oh and your sp's too, that would be great. also wrong bloody forum I met your sort that often, thanks for this posting. Makes all easier to me.

Mangrasky

Doomheim

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#48 - 2017-05-19 20:08:38 UTC

Old Pervert wrote:

Why must all aspects of our life cater to political correctness, pleasantries, and general niceness?

I'm not a bully. I got bullied at school a LOT (at least... until I got to be twice their size, they figured out real quick that fights with me ended fast and badly for them).. I know how that feels. I'm the epitome of a nice guy IRL.

In Eve, I'm not a nice guy. In these forums, I'm kind of in the middle because there is an Out-Of-Game aspect involved I think.

Regardless.. ingame I'm an ******* of epic proportions. And I love it. It's just a game, people with thin skin can go to the games that offer protection for people with softer constitutions.

I'm not talking down at said thin-skinned people, I realize that it's not something for everyone. This game is for the thicker-skinned people, who like to get a little rough with each other.

Sorry for your bad experiences in real life, but do you know the saying: you play what you are ?

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Alice Saki Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory. Likes received: 126,785	#49 - 2017-05-19 20:13:25 UTC \| Edited by: Alice Saki 2 Your Still here! Looks like Love ♥ FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.

Jonah Gravenstein

Machiavellian Space Bastards

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#50 - 2017-05-19 20:32:48 UTC | Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein

Mangrasky wrote:

Wat™?

Did you just equate killing someone in a video game to murdering someone in the real world? And you call us toxic?

I suggest you seek help with your apparent inability to separate reality from fantasy, also your choice of comparisons.

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Yes a game i can leave, real life i can not. But when i really like this game, why should i leave it that quick ?

Eve is obviously not the game for you, while you claim to like the game itself, you seem to find the very cornerstones that it is built upon distasteful. There is no shame in leaving a game that is built around gameplay that you don't like.

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I say, that eve has big pvp-space, many areas.

Nope, the entire universe is PvP space, ask any dev, ask any ISD member, read the official new player FAQ linked in my sig (page 21 will prove to be of interest).

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But this doesnt mean that all have to like pvp, to play pvp or even accept pvp as a playstile, when there are totally different playstiles possible too.

Actually it does, pretty much every "PvE" activity in Eve is geared towards enabling PvP or providing the possibility of conflict that leads to PvP. If anything PvP is the only valid playstyle and everything else is a subset of it.

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Same lesson for you: fight your ignorance.

Physician, heal thyself.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Mangrasky

Doomheim

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#51 - 2017-05-19 20:47:51 UTC

Shae Tadaruwa wrote:

Mangrasky wrote:

In reality i always try to be something good for my fellow humans, friendly, helpful... ...Living values, being a sort of model for these. Give love, not hate:

- didn't want to get into the crosshairs of gutter
- much little, stupid trouble because of nothing
- i NEED justice
- i was just a bundle of helpless hate, writing trembling the most shocking insults you might imagine
- morals is just a joke, that when it comes down to what we really are, we are just flesh, meat, greedy
- just a trick to get advantages, and that the most lies we produce are the lies we do to our own person
- EVE tought me what the saying means: "...brings out the worst of you."
- My boss in real life is not very nice but he's a good comrade compared to these people
- I don't know what made me leave this sick corporation
- Many not so nice words were fallen but i was glad i got rid of those persons without will to live.
- I mean really, why didn't they call themselves "Shoehorns" ??
- To many sickos, freaks, retards, ghettokids,
- all the scum that shuts its mouth and ducks down with fearful looks in reality,

TL;DR: I am the moral high ground and everyone else that is different to me is scum... ...but I'm so friendly.

If those quotes are examples of what good, friendly and helpful is, I am glad that I must hang out with the scum who just pvp competitively, with no malice towards anyone. That seems far better than this.

You proof how living on the absolute surface of mind is. Never look into something, never try to see more then good words, bad words. You are the sort that is begging to be lied, abused and betrayed.
So, you decide to go ganking and hurting people which is ok because you do not use bad words.
This reminds me at demonstrations, where leftwing extremist-brainfart juveniles throw fire and stone at people that hurt political correctness just by having another opinion like their own. They fight them with violence for humanism and for a better world.
And they NEVER would use bad language.
Sigh.
Can i have your smartphone ?

Mangrasky

Doomheim

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#52 - 2017-05-19 20:54:10 UTC | Edited by: Mangrasky

Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

yuckyuck

Ignorance doesnt help and i will not follow you in this chat-quote-puzzling game. Not all like pvp, not all do pvp, no matter if its existencial for economy or not. And you cannot force people to do pvp.
And you do not have the right to do so.
You like pvp, others dont, so they dont play it. They dont kill and they dont want to be killed, they mine the materials you blow up.
This thread is not for debating pvp or not by the way so if you feel pissed by my opinion, just go ingame and shoot some newbies.

Jonah Gravenstein

Machiavellian Space Bastards

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#53 - 2017-05-19 21:05:40 UTC | Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein

Mangrasky wrote:

Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

yuckyuck

Which part of Eve is a PvP game are you having trouble understanding?

CCP consider every activity in Eve to be PvP, the game is marketed as a PvP game, pretty much everything is geared towards enabling PvP etc etc. It's certainly not well known for its mining is it?

As for your assumption that I kill folks in Eve, that's laughable

Nope, I'm prey, but I'm not easy prey like you.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Alice Saki Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory. Likes received: 126,785	#54 - 2017-05-19 21:11:04 UTC 2 Mangrasky wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: yuckyuck This thread is not for debating pvp or not by the way so if you feel pissed by my opinion, just go ingame and shoot some newbies. Well I thought it was about you leaving Eve... But your still here FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.

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Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite The Conference Likes received: 4,239	#55 - 2017-05-19 22:12:50 UTC 5 Mangrasky wrote: And you cannot force people to do pvp. I just checked. I forced almost 2000 people to PvP. So you are totally wrong Evil RatKid

Blade Darth

Room for Improvement

Good Sax

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#56 - 2017-05-19 22:57:56 UTC

Real eve "endgame" is the forums, glad to see OP is still playing. Just when I thought we gonna derail it and talk about stalking Lulu.. such a wall of text coming in. What a pleasant surprise.

Idk what "a person that has claims to itself" (claims "about"? claims what?) means.
I already mastered ignorance. So ignorant I even ignore my own lack of ignorance. Any more life advice?

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Mangrasky Doomheim Likes received: 7	#57 - 2017-05-20 02:35:18 UTC \| Edited by: Mangrasky Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Nope, I'm a cake and in the sun i start smelling. You don't even understand my postings, so what do you want from me ?


Mangrasky Doomheim Likes received: 7	#58 - 2017-05-20 02:39:20 UTC OK, seems the real people are gone, just some scum left to **** above the tables. Time to go.

Radious Servasse

161st SOAR A

Divine Damnation

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#59 - 2017-05-20 05:02:47 UTC

Eve above all else is just a game. It's easy to lose sight of that when it can take months to get into some ships. Years even for the biggest ships in the game.

If you are sick of gankers, start mitigating your risk. Wormhole space is perilous, but very isky. Nullsec space, ironically is the safest space in the game, provided that you are in a good alliance in a good coalition (Because you are aware of roamers 5-10 jumps out leaving you plenty of time to get your stuff safe). Lowsec is the highest chance you have of getting ganked because that's where everyone goes who wants to solo or small group pvp. High sec? Unbelievably risky because you never know of the intentions of other people in your system.. They could be a ganker gang which can surprise you and steal your loot.

Plus, the golden rule of eve: NEVER fly anything you cannot afford to loose. When you undock, consider the ship already lost. Any isk you make? A bonus. Plus the second biggest rule in EVE : Risk is Isk. Want to earn a decent amount of isk without the risk? Mitigate your risk with my previous suggestions.

Eve is ironically a community game. You prosper the most when you work together in a community. You suffer/don't do that well when you work alone. Don't want to use TS or ever talk to people? Explore or run missions.

Don't like the people you are working with? You can always find another corp or alliance.

Eve is a sandbox. The rush and thrill of the game is what makes this game so unique. It's the space between triumph and disaster that makes the game so fun. There are so many options and possibilities in eve, it's truly remarkable.

But honestly, if after 11 years all you've done is mine, you've missed out on so much of what EVE has to offer.

Hopefully, I've helped you out in some way. Don't rage quit the game because of gankers or being in a crappy part of new Eden. Find a new part of eve to explore and experience.

PS: PVP is the heart of the game. It's beating core. You gotta dig through the crust before you reach the gold. That is the purpose of PVE in EVE. Mining is only a means to an end, it's not the end itself.