EVE New Citizens Q&A

in the short run probably about where it was, might dip up or down a little, probably dip down a little when all those outstanding small AUR balances get converted to plex. in the long run up, always up. way too much isk in the game

The price of PLEX has been constant as long as I can remember - $19.99 for 1 old or 500 new PLEX, with occasional sales and volume discounts. The exchange rate for ISK is determined entirely by the player markets - supply and demand. As long as more people want to buy PLEX with ISK than the other way around, the price of PLEX denominated in ISK will rise.

Put another way. If there are more players who want to pay their subscription with PLEX than players who want to sell PLEX for ISK to fund their gameplay, the in-game price of PLEX will go up.

Short term, the Aurum conversion should depress the price a bit. 2 million per new PLEX is equivalent to 1 billion for the old PLEX. I expect it to trade in the 2-2.5 million range once it settles down.

SW: Galaxies is probably the worst example to follow. Only thing good about that game was it's name. "item decay" in eve is named pvp. On long enough scale every player built item will be destroyed.

We need more war and people doing industry instead printing isk. They need to balance. Atm. they are not. I'm not calling for bounty nerfs (as it would hurt the newbros in VNI's like a hammer), people should feel like it's their own decision, not being forced to.

Mining and producing ships should be fun (interactive) and make about as much isk as carrier farming. And hard/ impossible to multibox so people don't box a mining fleet AND play a carrier at the same time.

I prefer a lot of small skirmishes over one blob 3000 vs 1000 war but either works if ships sell and economy keeps going.

PLEX is the fundamental currency of EVE.

Now the PLEX:ISK exchange rate? I expect that to trend up, from the present ~1.3b per month, as a larger % of the playerbase get more and more efficient at creating ISK.

There are two moments I expect the exchange rate to fall back down, hard, but I will keep those to myself.

Yeah, it's more fun most of the time.

Seriously, you talked about "resolving too much ISK in the game" and were then talking about destruction or obsolescence of stuff .. which do not fit together.

Aurum got merged with plex and it's an isk neutral operation. Isk price in addition to plex price for cosmetic items could serve as a sink supplement.

Replace rewards fir all isk printing activities with a different type of lp. This would reduce inflation and also autonatically bakance the rewards for various activities. As one activity gets easier and more popluar, the lp to isk exchange rate would shift and that activity would become less profitable.

Works well for faction warfare.

Eh, nevermind, you already know about the faucets vs. sinks chart.

Most players here are skilled with many years of experience.

I don’t like the rhetoric to just simple buff or nerf some game mechanic. It should be balanced otherwise will break the game mechanic and people will just stop playing. I’m offering to implement a new game mechanic which will normalize it and the Sungas’s example about goods decay timer is not so bad.

The zkillboard and last Monthly Economic Report March 2017 explains the problem very well.

In my opinion, the problem is: “Players started to fly just toooo safe”.



Holy molly!

Compared to old times the current mining with ORE ships is buffed to its limits. Better buff the high-sec mining only, because high-sec mining on a Venture is just a suicide compared to EVE standards.

Bounties are the main source to gain some starting capital in this game without plexing it and without grinding hi-sec mining for weeks.

The blue loot is not the core point. It can’t be a source of high isk/hour influx and this is very like mining or PI mechanic. After this activity, you get some stuff which you can sell or not – you do not get isk directly. An example about DED loot. During some Sunday, I spent like two hours of clearing combat anomalies after that I got two expeditions: one to high sec and other to a far deep low-sec system. From the first one I got a 10M ISK ded loot and from another I got a 70M ISK Centii A-Type loot. I spent on those expeditions addition two hours with a lot of risk passing those “jungles”. The last stuff I can’t sell until today. During this time, I made more isk on missions lvl III and PI. Just nerf it and I personally will never do it due to explained factors and market will rarely see some blue stuff. I don’t believe that corp/alliance CEO’s will grind that by themselves or other industrialists or traders. So corp miners and other employees will left their duty to grind that stuff for their top ships mostly. Something similar will happen if the exploration and ratting will be nerfed – no datacores and sleeper components.

No need in mission nerfs. Maybe in mission LP to ISK nerf mechanic. Can have an unknown impact on gameplay: more or less datacores to the market orders. For example, I bought a Hoarder to deliver XX thousands of projectiles, missiles and hundreds of drones (my skills let me use only these squishy only) to my mission stations.

Nerfs to Incursions – maybe. Are incursions so poplar nowadays?

I think the insurances should be nerfed. Based on that economic report they have a great influx into in game finances.

The graph Production vs Destruction shows that production is 3 time higher (3 T) than destruction for years. During the last 6 months, it is 5 time (4.5 – 5 T) higher (maybe some war preparation). This and zkillboard shows that only PVE players (exploration ships, mining barges, Machariels, Tengus, Rattlesankes, Hel carriers) and gankers are participating in EVE economy. The big corporations and alliances have lost comparative little and at the same time they are gaining huge assets with null-sec grinding. What I saw in few videos about corp brawls – they are using some little fleets of cruisers and BC and rarely BS. Total worth of their fleet can be the same as the worth of a well fitted Hel Carrier or two. This is an Alliance level…

The graph Summary of Key Economic Figures by Region is the evidence of my words. Most destruction happened in The Forge (2.8 T) and The Citadel (1.9 T) due to suicider activity. The Providence (1.7 T) and Catch (2.5 T) are known as regions with gate camping mechanics and, of course, there are many little corporations and alliances which made some brawls. Other regions controlled by big alliances are not presented even. For example: Tribute (342 B), Paragon Soul (313 B), Delve (1,151 B), Deklein (654 B), Fountain (573 B).

The graph Money Supply is amazing 😊

So, we can’t force players to go and blow up their billion ships because we need some fine graph curves. Moreover, alliances are joined in some shadow coalitions and players just don’t want to risk too much. The idea of decay timer on goods, especially ships, is not bad. It can change the game significantly. It will require a better logistical game and will not let players to grind null-sec resources to build unlimited number of ships hidden somewhere. This will put the intel and spying games back to a new level of importance, because we can’t have built unlimited number of ships but we should know the appropriate number of ships into our opponent possess to balance the forces. The old ships you will sell to a reduced price, reprocess of destroy in some battles for fun.

Also, let the alpha clones to drive one or two T2 frigate and one mining barge at least. Because they with their limited T1 crap can't made some serious impact on EVE economy.

Finally, the price of PLEX (500 PLEX) always will be normalized (anticipated) to average ISK amount made through ISK/hour of in game mechanic during a month. So, new players will grind for a half plex/month while advanced players will grind for two-three plex/month no matter what are they doing.

i have a theory that plex will always be around 10 days worth of isk making on average.