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Ragnar STS
Arcane Odyssey
Electus Matari
#141 - 2017-05-10 04:46:29 UTC
I guess I'll chime in even though I usually consider these threads to be useless idiots crying.

The sound sliders need to be brought back. My 'Music' level is at 5...and the music is still wildly overpowering. I love the old classic music. But I don't want it to be so overpowering that I can hear it from the headset from across the room.

Agree on the irritating mouse-over click needing to be turned down.

I don't know if it is just me or not, but clicking on/off the asteroid environment doesn't seem to do anything in the ice belts anymore. Ice environment is now just the large roids, not the small stuff with rays. This worked beautifully up until today. I'm sort of guessing it is suddenly a dx11 or only thing...playing on linux with dx9 support on the dev wine version.

I very much like the work on the citadel alliance/corp/ceo artwork and the suns.

Anybody upset about the Plex thing can eat rocks. For the love of God...spend a little bit of real money. Subscriptions keep the game servers running. Plex is not supposed to be like the oil market ruining the entire planet.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#142 - 2017-05-10 04:56:08 UTC
Ragnar STS wrote:
I guess I'll chime in even though I usually consider these threads to be useless idiots crying.

The sound sliders need to be brought back. My 'Music' level is at 5...and the music is still wildly overpowering. I love the old classic music. But I don't want it to be so overpowering that I can hear it from the headset from across the room.

Agree on the irritating mouse-over click needing to be turned down.

I don't know if it is just me or not, but clicking on/off the asteroid environment doesn't seem to do anything in the ice belts anymore. Ice environment is now just the large roids, not the small stuff with rays. This worked beautifully up until today. I'm sort of guessing it is suddenly a dx11 or only thing...playing on linux with dx9 support on the dev wine version.

I very much like the work on the citadel alliance/corp/ceo artwork and the suns.

Anybody upset about the Plex thing can eat rocks. For the love of God...spend a little bit of real money. Subscriptions keep the game servers running. Plex is not supposed to be like the oil market ruining the entire planet.


People with a life dont have time to grind. Not everybody is happy by being targeted as a cash cow. The rise in cost is by no means justified by the even reduced quantity of product we recieve. I pay sub but beside pvp I do not have much time to spend in-game.

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

Drigo Segvian
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#143 - 2017-05-10 05:01:22 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Ragnar STS wrote:
I guess I'll chime in even though I usually consider these threads to be useless idiots crying.

The sound sliders need to be brought back. My 'Music' level is at 5...and the music is still wildly overpowering. I love the old classic music. But I don't want it to be so overpowering that I can hear it from the headset from across the room.

Agree on the irritating mouse-over click needing to be turned down.

I don't know if it is just me or not, but clicking on/off the asteroid environment doesn't seem to do anything in the ice belts anymore. Ice environment is now just the large roids, not the small stuff with rays. This worked beautifully up until today. I'm sort of guessing it is suddenly a dx11 or only thing...playing on linux with dx9 support on the dev wine version.

I very much like the work on the citadel alliance/corp/ceo artwork and the suns.

Anybody upset about the Plex thing can eat rocks. For the love of God...spend a little bit of real money. Subscriptions keep the game servers running. Plex is not supposed to be like the oil market ruining the entire planet.


People with a life dont have time to grind. Not everybody is happy by being targeted as a cash cow. The rise in cost is by no means justified by the even reduced quantity of product we recieve. I pay sub but beside pvp I do not have much time to spend in-game.



So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex?

I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors
Dominous Nolen
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#144 - 2017-05-10 05:21:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Dominous Nolen
Scanning interface changes need to happen. When selecting a sig from the probe scanner window can you please make the other sigs disappear from the overview until you move on to the next item?

Also Please... Feature parity the for the old vs new scanners.

For the love of Bob, please put the entry sigs indicator back onto map showing the "unknown wormhole" marker

@dominousnolen

"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#145 - 2017-05-10 06:08:17 UTC
Drigo Segvian wrote:
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Ragnar STS wrote:
I guess I'll chime in even though I usually consider these threads to be useless idiots crying.

The sound sliders need to be brought back. My 'Music' level is at 5...and the music is still wildly overpowering. I love the old classic music. But I don't want it to be so overpowering that I can hear it from the headset from across the room.

Agree on the irritating mouse-over click needing to be turned down.

I don't know if it is just me or not, but clicking on/off the asteroid environment doesn't seem to do anything in the ice belts anymore. Ice environment is now just the large roids, not the small stuff with rays. This worked beautifully up until today. I'm sort of guessing it is suddenly a dx11 or only thing...playing on linux with dx9 support on the dev wine version.

I very much like the work on the citadel alliance/corp/ceo artwork and the suns.

Anybody upset about the Plex thing can eat rocks. For the love of God...spend a little bit of real money. Subscriptions keep the game servers running. Plex is not supposed to be like the oil market ruining the entire planet.


People with a life dont have time to grind. Not everybody is happy by being targeted as a cash cow. The rise in cost is by no means justified by the even reduced quantity of product we recieve. I pay sub but beside pvp I do not have much time to spend in-game.



So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex?

I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors

I bet you do.

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

Viceran Phaedra
Instar Heavy Industries
#146 - 2017-05-10 06:56:50 UTC
When you are on the default 'look at my ship' view, the camera sits a bit too high on both the Council Diplomatic Shuttle and Pacifier frigate (tested on Sisi for the Pacifier). This makes them look a bit 'too low' on-screen, instead of centred.

Cheers!

Chief Executive Officer

Instar Heavy Industries

Queloor Zefram
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#147 - 2017-05-10 07:21:41 UTC
I am a supremely dissatisfied customer. Like super pissed off. Patch "successfully deployed", the irony in that phrase .....

CCP dev, why this stark raving madness?

1.
Bring back the advanced sound settings. Today!

2.
The probe scanner window is one step forward and three backwards. Having to use the keyboard and the mouse to scan, having to travel longer distances on screen, etc, etc, etc, pp. The new probe scanner window is not yet ready for prime time.

3.
Nobody in their right mind wants a plex vault. If you remove risk from the game, then why not respawn my ship after it gets killed. Risk/Reward belongs to this game, take it away and I can go play something else.

4.
Nobody in their right mind wants a plex vault showing up in the inventory of an undocked ship.

5.
CPU load when minimized is higher, when you run multiple accounts that is an issue.

6.
"Removed Output dropdown from TE and ME jobs (As they didn't do anything)"
Not true! Are you even doing industry sometimes before you remove functionality that lets me move bpo from one container to the next as they are being researched ? I have bpos packaged and unresearch in one container. Then I progress with ME to a lvl 6 container, then to a ME level 8 container, then to a ME level 9-10 container. The same with TE. Please put that functionality back asap!

7.
No plex for character transfers

8.
Haven't tried it yet, but apparently no plex for game time donation from one account to another ?

I ll now cancel the automatic subscription on five active accounts, if you try to fix this stuff then ok, if not, goodbye.


Nicola Arman
Deep Maw Salvage
#148 - 2017-05-10 08:02:13 UTC
Suns disappear then reappear when you happen to warp through them. A sun portal is created causing what seem to be unintended visual issues.
Hiotu Molou
Doomheim
#149 - 2017-05-10 08:24:19 UTC
I do not know why I get my hopes up after every disappointment. CCP you should listen to your players more and not remove good functional features.

The (old, new one is not advanced at all) advanced sound settings were absolutely vital in certain environments, for example advanced wormhole scouting and PvP.

To that end, the old scanning system was much more intuitive, I tried for a few months to use the new one but it just couldn't scan as fast with it. If shortcut for d-scanning worked for the old one it would've been perfect for me.

Plex vault is absolutely infuriating. I don't need an annoying reminder that takes space in every inventory window ever. Also I am worried about this constant trend of making Eve less risky. The vault is yet another example of it.

I am also thoroughly disappointed about the change that you can not use plex to transfer characters. I was hoping to rearrange my characters on my accounts after my break and spending my savings on injectors and having much less playtime. I can not afford to pay for all of that, I would rather unsub again.
Milostiev
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#150 - 2017-05-10 08:44:08 UTC
I like that you unified the the 2 currencies into one (PLEX and AUR were in a way both currencies).

Not sure exactly how to use it to extend omega time, or how to gift it to someone just yet, but i don't think you are that stupid to not put this feature in. :P

My one question .... remember how you were warned about the range of Warp Scrambling on HICS when you put that in the game ?
Nina Hagen-Daz
Nabo espacial
#151 - 2017-05-10 08:45:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Nina Hagen-Daz
How can we hide the plex vault in the inventory?
Its extremely annoying and typically only needed once per month.

Kid absolutely like the new suns, he has me flying to them all the time Cool.
Nantis
Caldari Scientific Research
#152 - 2017-05-10 10:12:05 UTC
Cant warp moon closer than 5000km, is that upcoming feature or just a mistake/bug?
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#153 - 2017-05-10 10:56:09 UTC
Stupid f***ing update. Plex is more expensive then ever and Plex scams as nauseum which I predicted weeks ago.

Stupid lighting change broke station interiors so now I have to play on direct x 9 with 5fps.
I got 11before and I didn't freeze when docking and undocking.

Nothing of value added, game just made somewhat worse.
Starting to feel very cheap and full of adverts like it's a zynga game or clash of clans. I look forward to cheezy commercials soon.
Cat silth
Diversity 101
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#154 - 2017-05-10 11:03:06 UTC
tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick
Oh everything group together no ui for me in the game then.
Milostiev
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#155 - 2017-05-10 11:03:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Milostiev
Milostiev wrote:
I like that you unified the the 2 currencies into one (PLEX and AUR were in a way both currencies).

Not sure exactly how to use it to extend omega time, or how to gift it to someone just yet, but i don't think you are that stupid to not put this feature in. :P

My one question .... remember how you were warned about the range of Warp Scrambling on HICS when you put that in the game ?


Ohhh, i figured it out.
I love this new change. :P

I also love the 4 weeks contracts now, this is going to be nice in some ways (i sell a lot on contracts).
The fighter related UI changes are also awesome.
The blood raider citadel thing sounds awesome, such a shame it ended up in the hands of gewns (for now)m, i hope you will expand them to other pirate factions too. :(
Quote:
about concord ships
After a limited period of timed exclusivity these ships will become available to other capsuleers in the future.
awesome, let the fanfest ppl have first dibs but allow us poor mortals to have a crack at them as well .... i like it, it's better than exclusivity, as that would push them in the realms of AT ships in terms of price, and it would be a rather unfair reward

Blood raider caps/titan sound nice, i hope they will be with a smaller cost than the serpentis ones, which in some ways are more like vanity stuff now.
It's good that you made separate brackets for EG's, these things will end up cluttering the skies. Maybe in long term you should decide on a limit of citadels per planet/system. You might also consider making them easier to blow up, the Astra for instance has an obscene exposure (in terms of hours). Maybe buff their defences, increase exposure, reduce cycles of reinforce ?
Love the fixes, some took a while though. :)

Not a big fan of displaying portrait on structures, i hope you have a way to disable this .... it's more of an e-peen thing i guess.
Also, you can't move characters with plex anymore .... good thing i moved/sold my last one a month ago.
Milostiev
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#156 - 2017-05-10 11:05:28 UTC
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
Stupid f***ing update. Plex is more expensive then ever and Plex scams as nauseum which I predicted weeks ago.

Stupid lighting change broke station interiors so now I have to play on direct x 9 with 5fps.
I got 11before and I didn't freeze when docking and undocking.

Nothing of value added, game just made somewhat worse.
Starting to feel very cheap and full of adverts like it's a zynga game or clash of clans. I look forward to cheezy commercials soon.


Plex value will go down, there was a lot of speculation with plex right before the update.
However, summer is coming, and if the trend is the same, it should go up even more during summer time.
It will tank the moment ppl go back to school/jobs.
AshenShugar01
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#157 - 2017-05-10 11:13:38 UTC
Buried in the mountains of useless patch-notes was probably 'we are removing the old scanner'.............. sigh

Of course the question begs 'why?' and also the question 'why update it at all?'

Utility is the Key CCP, something that despite having many masterstrokes in this game in the years I have been playing you guys just cant seem to get your heads around. Utility, the idea that things wherever possible should be simple to use and not time consuming.

The new scanner is a dog, I HATE it.

Now I freely admit to my being a vet so bitter that i have bitter in my bitter but please.... WHY IS THERE A GIANT GREEN DEATH STAR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCANNING MAP?

Why is he unhappy? I cant see anything genuis, it makes it really hard to see the things you are trying to scan down. Yes yes directional scan is important and seeing the range displayed is ok for idiots who dont know how to use it without visual aids i suppose but why for gods sake why is it so damn bright?

How does something as simple as this make it through testing? Its even in the feedback thread re the new scanner....
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#158 - 2017-05-10 13:00:02 UTC
Hy,

I know I am a bit late, but there are other things happening besides EVE Lol

Fearing another wall of text won't do any good, I made a video in regards to the probe scanner / star map changes. It was months overdue, but then again, it should not be my (or our) job to consider this properly.

EVE Online - o7 Probe Scanner / Star Map - Uncensored

Hope some will take the time and actually address the issues.

Cheers ...

...and fly safe.

Tsutomi Sakuma
Doomheim
#159 - 2017-05-10 14:28:55 UTC
xpl0de wrote:
Pretty soon we will be able to pay for skills with plex. Way to go CCP Roll


Feature already implemented.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#160 - 2017-05-10 14:30:01 UTC
Drigo Segvian wrote:
So how much was the increase if any? $1, $2 a month? $19.99 a plex?

I spend more on a burger and fries for me and my wife.... #nopoors

A lot more than you think. Just compare these 2 pictures: Old PLEX Prices vs. New PLEX prices. For instance: You got 6 full months of Game Time before the changes, now you only get 5 Months and 72% of the 6th month of game time. That's a lot more than than just 1 or 2 dollars per month in increased cost, infact, it's more than 5 USD on the 6th month that you need to spend extra because you did not get a full month of subscription value.

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