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119.5 - General Feedback

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Chan'aar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#221 - 2017-05-16 12:36:57 UTC
I appear to have lost all client side notifications of how much plex/omega time I have left on my account.

This used to be visible on the character selection screen and in the character sheet, now, nothing.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#222 - 2017-05-16 12:52:04 UTC
Chan'aar wrote:
I appear to have lost all client side notifications of how much plex/omega time I have left on my account.

This used to be visible on the character selection screen and in the character sheet, now, nothing.

Maybe this is what CCP considers fixed?
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#223 - 2017-05-16 18:51:47 UTC
Plex should be an item in inventory, not some "vault" that shows up in every inventory window as it would be something more important than drones or ship equipment. Are we shooting "plex ammo" or spend it to warp faster or something? (heavy sarcasm, those are not ideas!).

I understand some players could be confused about perma-loss and dying with plex in cargo, but the game features include "estimated cargo value", "DPS" and "effective hitpoints" so people with IQ above 70 that can divide and add 2+2 presumably came to the conclusion that undocking with 10 billion estimated cargo and 3.000 EHP is a bad idea.
As for the rest, they won't be able to put plex in the vault anyway, that requires at least 3 brain cells to do.
You guys try to dumb down the game so even amebas can play it?

I dig the rest of the update, including merging plex with AUR and the structure billboards (troll potential).
Sadira Higgs
Crab
#224 - 2017-05-16 21:37:47 UTC
Chan'aar wrote:
I appear to have lost all client side notifications of how much plex/omega time I have left on my account.

This used to be visible on the character selection screen and in the character sheet, now, nothing.



This is such a dumb change i cant even comprehend the logic behind it....
Andrian Dallocort
Andromida Interstellar Enterprises
#225 - 2017-05-16 21:46:43 UTC
I'd like to see some responses from a CCP employee to the this 119.5 feedback forum, which I presume was created by CCP with the intent of collecting feedback.

CCP reps, even if you cannot commit to granting any of the requests on a feedback forum, and even if you disagree with them, you should at least post occasionally to show that you are reading the feedback and explain how you are passing it back to developers and tracking the topics for resolution.

There are clearly ~5 main feedback topics that have been repeatedly discussed on this thread and raised by multiple customers so they warrant a timely response from CCP.

Otherwise just close the thread and post a sign saying CCP is not interested in feedback.
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#226 - 2017-05-16 23:15:05 UTC
Andrian Dallocort wrote:
I'd like to see some responses from a CCP employee to the this 119.5 feedback forum, which I presume was created by CCP with the intent of collecting feedback.

CCP reps, even if you cannot commit to granting any of the requests on a feedback forum, and even if you disagree with them, you should at least post occasionally to show that you are reading the feedback and explain how you are passing it back to developers and tracking the topics for resolution.

There are clearly ~5 main feedback topics that have been repeatedly discussed on this thread and raised by multiple customers so they warrant a timely response from CCP.

Otherwise just close the thread and post a sign saying CCP is not interested in feedback.
Great sentiment - Sadly that is NOT how feedback threads work on these forums.

Devs say they do monitor their threads regarding feedback and to their credit some changes have been made over the years due to feedback. It is a rare thing though for Devs to take general feedback seriously and Never will you see a Dev post in one of their own threads unless it is to acknowledge the minority who believe Devs can do no wrong.

I'm still waiting for the day I can remotely view contents of cans/ships in the new structures. I imagine that will be a long time coming, if ever.


Several Fanfests ago CCP Seagul told us all, communication between Devs and players would get better - Still waiting..

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.

Deus Reliquit
JKRO CORP
#227 - 2017-05-17 01:27:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Deus Reliquit
Sgt Ocker wrote:
Andrian Dallocort wrote:
I'd like to see some responses from a CCP employee to the this 119.5 feedback forum, which I presume was created by CCP with the intent of collecting feedback.

CCP reps, even if you cannot commit to granting any of the requests on a feedback forum, and even if you disagree with them, you should at least post occasionally to show that you are reading the feedback and explain how you are passing it back to developers and tracking the topics for resolution.

There are clearly ~5 main feedback topics that have been repeatedly discussed on this thread and raised by multiple customers so they warrant a timely response from CCP.

Otherwise just close the thread and post a sign saying CCP is not interested in feedback.
Great sentiment - Sadly that is NOT how feedback threads work on these forums.

Devs say they do monitor their threads regarding feedback and to their credit some changes have been made over the years due to feedback. It is a rare thing though for Devs to take general feedback seriously and Never will you see a Dev post in one of their own threads unless it is to acknowledge the minority who believe Devs can do no wrong.

I'm still waiting for the day I can remotely view contents of cans/ships in the new structures. I imagine that will be a long time coming, if ever.


Several Fanfests ago CCP Seagul told us all, communication between Devs and players would get better - Still waiting..


I have a feeling there must be some kind of Icelandic holiday? Been quiet since last week. Really wish they would stop saying "Successfully Launched" after every update and just say "Launched like a turd sandwich" ! P
Dominous Nolen
Anomalous Existence
Spatial Instability
#228 - 2017-05-17 06:57:43 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6926596#post6926596

Relinking from 119.3 thread.

EBR was closed again, asking for info and no time to respond.

I'm still having my overview pushed down from the upper right corner on every new login in a citadel and the fact the tickets keep getting closed is getting to be a bit much.

I've reset the window position of the character impacted in game, still happening.

Thankfully I've been able to get some info the dev team, but if I hadn't I'd have to leave another EBR with the bug hunters to close yet again.

I gave you video, still images as proof of the issue along with the relevant log info.

@dominousnolen

"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#229 - 2017-05-17 13:04:47 UTC
Sgt Ocker wrote:
Several Fanfests ago CCP Seagul told us all, communication between Devs and players would get better - Still waiting..

Well... Maybe on FanFest communication is Ok? You know: the only group of "players"(*) CCP cares enough?

Note: writing "players" this way i indicate that i personally have suspicion that most of those attendees are not even EvE players anymore. They were at some point but left the game long ago and only attend FanFest to meet friends. I could be wrong for sure.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#230 - 2017-05-17 14:29:35 UTC
I would say you have to be there to get the feels of it. Now when they are not around to sell you their version of reality, the live game bites back and you feel empty inside. Like a deflated love doll abandoned in a trash can.
Rin Aiko
CVT IND
#231 - 2017-05-17 23:15:40 UTC
So how do I activate plex now? Its in my vault but no option.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#232 - 2017-05-18 09:14:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
If you dropped the PLEX into the Vault, then you can visit New Eden Store and buy those fancy clothes or SKINs or Omega time.

Items will get into your redeem system and the Omega clone activation will add 30 days of Omega clone on account. Omega time left on your account will be only visible in your account management site on web unfortunately. They removed the Omega timers from game as for now.


How CCP is programming things.
Lara Agnon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#233 - 2017-05-19 16:08:57 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
They removed the Omega timers from game as for now.

And I refused to add Omega time as for now. At least until I can see what I have purchased ingame.
Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#234 - 2017-05-23 10:41:00 UTC
Patch Notes for today are out....

- And there are NO fixes for all the PLEX issues?

Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium

Janeway84
Insane's Asylum
Evil Monkies Incorporated
#235 - 2017-05-30 08:11:56 UTC
Besides the t3 c changes Will you guys release some devblogs on what modules and stuff you will be balancing , releasing this summer that you mentioned at fanfest?
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#236 - 2017-05-31 18:13:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
So, i gifted 1000 plex each to two alt accounts.

Their sub was about to expire along with the extra training queue.

There is no plex in these accounts vaults.

The only way i can seem to see the account status of these accounts is the account management page.

30 days has been added to each account (so the system assumed these gifted plex was for game time). But the other 500 plex per account seems unaccounted for since there was only 30 days added and extra skill queue is now expired.

Where did they go?

What the **** is going on?

Why did CCP do this?

How despirate for cash must CCP be to release this puke?

I think im gonna let my accounts rest for a while, no point throwing billions away into a black hole.
Dominous Nolen
Anomalous Existence
Spatial Instability
#237 - 2017-06-01 14:45:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Dominous Nolen
Why am I now forced to buy stuff through the Steam store if i'm launching the game from there to track time in game spent on my steam profile rather then be able to buy stuff directly from your store? It's another point of potential transaction delay.

The Account is only using the steam launcher, was not created via Steam.

@dominousnolen

"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood

Mollie Mormon
Doomheim
#238 - 2017-06-01 19:28:38 UTC
Andrian Dallocort wrote:
Otherwise just close the thread and post a sign saying CCP is not interested in feedback.

That about sums it up.

+1
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#239 - 2017-06-03 19:14:57 UTC
Patch Notes wrote:
To improve the performance of the war history tab of alliance/corporation show info windows when more than 100 finished wars exist, they will be divided into years and loaded separately when expanded.

I just noticed this and it's amazing. No worries any longer that opening the Wars tab of Marmite or VMG kills your client. Lol

UI Improvement Collective

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Haseo Antares
Production N Destruction INC.
F O R M I C I D A E
#240 - 2017-06-04 13:07:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Haseo Antares
I started playing EVE every day back in 2010. Back then there were about 50,000 people logged into EVE at any given time. I started playing primary because I love space games. I have been playing on and off for nearly 7 years now. With the exception of the Incursion fiasco and $1000 space pants, I always enjoyed playing EVE. Late last year, before I took a break from online gaming - EVE was my go to game.

Fast forward to the present. A couple days ago, I logged in for the first time in about 9 months and did not enjoy the experience. My first gripe is that Aura's voice was replaced with...whatever is there now. Aura's voice was soothing and gave the game a futuristic feel. This new person sounds extremely mechanical and as if she was reading from a script. At first this seemed minor but, after a short while it became grating. The simple act of warping is much less enjoyable then it was 9 months ago.

After a bit of research, I discovered that this unfortunate change was permanent. It would appear that the Devs are not keen on reverting this change. Perhaps for whatever reason the old voice actor is no longer available and for continuity purposes the Devs decided to do a complete overhaul. Or perhaps the Devs think this new voice is a good replacement. In either event one thing is clear - feedback on this change is being ignored.

This one seemingly minor change shouldn't have a major impact on the game - but it does. Why? This is just my opinion, but I believe that there are two primary reasons: (1) It negatively impacts player experience; (2) More importantly, it shows that the Devs are ignoring player feedback. When the Incursion fiasco occurred, players were passionate enough to stage protests (i.e. burn Jita). It is clear that that passion is not nearly as strong as it once was. Rather then protesting - people are simply leaving.

I understand that CCP has to modernize its product, however, it should not do so at the expense of game experience. Players like myself may come off as whiny or entitled when we "complain" about a course of action CCP takes but there is a reason for it. The reason is we care about the game and want it to succeed. The new voice is a small change which has a big impact - at least for me.

I have 3 accounts which I used to sub nearly every month for 6 years or so. CCP will not get anymore of my money if they continue to degrade the experience. On a positive note, I must say I like my alpha clones.

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