Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Ahahaha oh boy you sure have a lot of confidence in CCP. If goons can figure out how to cheese their super duper AI within days, they'll just do it again. And again. Don't hold your breath.

There is no world in which something as powerful as an Iapetan will not be farmed and guarded by the most powerful groups in the game.



An oversized Titan with a siege module and fighters is not new or exciting. You're just obsoleting the very existence of dreads and carriers.



Why do you think I live in wormhole space? Here's a hint: Supers and Titans cannot enter or be produced in wormhole space.

Yes, that is correct. I do not enjoy getting dropped on by dozens of supercapitals regularly. In fact, I dislike supercapitals in general, hence, I live in wormholes where I do not have to worry about them. You going and proposing a Super-Supercapital that will make it even more difficult for me to roam null makes me unhappy for obvious reasons.

Rather than just shitting on the idea as a whole (its still not a good idea and is being presented horribly) i'm actually going to give it the benefit of the doubt and TRY to make these things work.

If you arbitrarily limit their availability like with a palatine, then only the largest and most powerful alliances will ever get their hands on them, and since these give considerably bigger advantages than the palatine will be more game breaking than a glorified bragging rights citadel. Sure you can destroy one which will let someone else build it... IF they are fast enough, (maybe they already had one ready to deploy but just couldn't hit deliver on the job until the last second, but then it comes down to a race to who can press the deliver button fastest when the previous one pops. which isn't exactly fair to the group who DOES in theory put forward the effort to kill it)

Limiting it by build cost has always been a bad idea, and will continue to be one. a 20t price tag might seem unfathomably expensive today, but so was the 20B price tag that titans where given when they first came out. but honestly out of all the options this one might still be the best, because it at least makes them accessible to anyone who wants them and can foot the bill, yes it means they will slowly proliferate and become as common as titans are today, but so long as they are designed with that in mind then that might not be the worst thing.

Limit it by PVE drops. There are problems here as well if the content is too easy, then it will be farmed out almost instantly like the sotiyo, putting the blueprints exclusively in the hands of whatever group can control them. If the content is too hard then no one will bother with it beyond the first few. and yes CCP is capable of making pve content that is too difficult to be bothered with (drifter incursions) Hell even the regular Low sec incursions to get the sansha supercarrier don't get run all that often anymore, because the benefits of having one don't match up to the amount of work you have to put into getting it.

so now that the possible methods for getting one have been covered. lets talk about what possible use this thing could have and what role it could fill. We certainly don't need "just a bigger titan" besides, thats boring. and going with the idea of hive ships, lets run with it and actually give it the fleet role that the original motherships (and then original titans to a lesser extent) where designed around. citadel grade weaponry (maybe) that can be deployed to a battlefield but mostly would use command burst and logistics. If the new citadel code would allow for it, even possibly transporting players as well as their ships within it. cloning bays, regular hangars etc.

now these things would be mostly designed around defense not offense, they would also follow the citadel timer mechanics (maybe with only 1 reinforcement timer though). when put into reinforced mode they would be forced to anchor wherever they are, so if you over extend and get one caught behind enemy lines you would need to fly out and defend it long enough for it to unanchor so you could bring the thing back.

optional (when anchored into its "station mode" it would have vulnerability windows, would be always vulnerable when in its support mode). when in travel mode, no asset safety, anything in it drops or gets destroyed. possibly zero asset safety at all.

Uses, a mobile forward base that would allow beachheads during attacks, faster and easier reshipping for whoever is fielding the thing, command and logistical support.

Now i'm not saying that the game needs this thing, or even if its a good idea, simply that this is my best attempt at making the core concept that I THINK OP is trying to get at slightly more feasible.

Perhaps when the times comes where CCP will allow players to discover entirely new systems (I do believe that is on their road map), then it is entirely possible that Iapetans could also fill the role of "bridge-heads" for this kind of exploration, alongside their smaller Titan brethren - a ship type that can carry and set up star-gates to new systems.