EVE New Citizens Q&A

Okay so im a pretty new player, im only about 3-4 months into the game. I went Omega because i didn't like being restricted with what i could do in this great game. Anyway my question is how do i start doing industry or mass-mining to build my own ships, or sell the ships and make isk, im currently lost with how to do anything in blueprint copying and blueprints in general. What ship should i train to use, how should i use them, what should i do? at the moment i have a retriever and am thinking of training into Exhumers, but i want to be able to build my own ships instead of having to spend tons of money on buying them (money that i don't have, i can't seem to find a way to make a good ammount of isk)

Sorry if this post is a bit jumpled up and hard to understand, i haven't slept enough recently so i feel like crap.
Please help!

There is a whole lot of information down at the Science & Industry subforum as well, with questions like yours aplenty.

Science & Industry Subforum
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=250

IMHO, it will be a long and dedicated path if you wanna try to make your own ships. When you start using spreadsheets to calculate your build costs, you'll quickly learn that your costs will be higher than what is being sold at markets today. This can be explained by:

-manufacturers having access to very cheap building materials, like wholesale/discounted prices at null
-selling of old, old stocks.. that were built from times when material prices were lower
-MIMAF (minerals I mine are free) builders, they just wanna sell it!

Anyway, one other thing you can do is to join a (nullsec) indy group to get hands-on experience of the things that need to be considered.

Ship to train for? A hauler, definitely a hauler. Tanky ones, big cargohold ones, and a speedy cloaky one. This is for moving stuff around like build materials, cheap raw ores for refining, planetary materials for your factory planet, built modules/ships to be posted into the market.. and so on.

Study the things in high demand, watch out for new ship changes (market speculation, build ahead of introduction) abuse the Buy Orders for cheap mats, make use of alts, npc corps and the Haulers Channel. Hmm.. i'm sure some others will fill out the rest.

I have joined a null-sec corp as others suggested but I still don't make money from it.
I was suggested to get a Vexor Navy Issue, and even though the ship sells for only 80m, the fitting and skills required to fly the fittings is much more complicated to get.

The only way I found to make money so far is running Incursions.

There are incursions channels in game and Xiao Sishen is the one maintaining the Incursion Public channel with a list of them.

Some of the ones I have flown with are:
Armor Incursions:
- EN V A - - IIC EU TZ
- EN V A H The Ditanian Fleet 23/7

Shield Incursions:
- EN V - - ISN Secondary EU TZ
- EN - - H The Valhalla Project 23/7
- EN V - - The vanguard Project EU/US TZ
- EN V A - - USTZ Inc US TZ
- EN - - H Warp to Me Incursions 23/7

Now, that pay around 60m to 200m per hour depending.
That is enough to pay for your PLEX to get game time.

What's more, you can finance your other activity like Industrial Manufacturing / Copying / Research
You can also buy injectors to skill your pilots to do what you want.
One FC has over 40 to 80b on hand from this, on top of all his other costs.

That is also a good income to organize war fleets for PvP.

I finance my gametime and all my toys with industry, nowdays i dont actually do anything serious since i can pretty much live on the past earnings, which all came from industry. Not mining, just buying mats, building and selling stuff.
All i can say is to stay away from t1 modules and ships, unless you really find something profitable.
The more you have to invest in time and isk or if its difficult to move, the more you can generally make profit, thats why most t1 stuff is mostly not profitable. Also the ppl who "get their minerals for free" push down prices.

I did T2 modules, rigs, T2 rigs, mining barges, some random other stuff.

There is a lot of good advice here already so I'm not going to be linking anything or giving any in depth explanations as it's mostly been posted already.

When I was first starting out in industry I did like you and asked a lot of questions and did a bunch of reading on the topic. It seemed like the more that I found out about it the less I understood. It got a bit confusing for me and at some point I decided that I would just have to jump in and give it a try and learn from my mistakes.

So what I did was to find an ammo BPO and buy it, then research it, then build from it. You can get ammo BPOs for cheap and you don't risk much by building ammo and the minerals needed can mostly be found in high sec ore. Once you've made a production run of ammo and have seen the process happen things will seem to make sense or at least they did for me.

Also keep in mind with anything in this game if you want to get a feel for how to do something without risk you can always do it on the test server. On SiSi you can start and cancel jobs and not have to worry about the consequences of screwing things up. With ammo it might not be that big of a deal but if you wanted to experiment with doing something more complicated like inventing and building a Jump Freighter there are significantly more risks on something like that.

OP, you're in a player corp for over a month...they're not helping you? They should at least point you in the right direction.