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Please redo the RETRIBUTION - it is largely useless

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Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#21 - 2017-05-03 22:33:34 UTC
The whole group needs a redesign and possibly a new role.

I'd vote for 50% resistance to energy neutralizers and a massive bonus to overheating so even though AF's are slower than a reversing titan, with OH an assault frig could catch, scram and hold kitey cancer ships even if they got a neut fitted.
Jimmy Thrace
Amarrian Enterprise Institute
#22 - 2017-05-03 22:59:33 UTC
I understand now, my use of the word "need" was ambiguous. Sorry!

The point I was trying to make was not about speed, but engagement distance. My assertion is that the intended engagement distance for these ships when fit for pulse laser fighting is "bonused scorch range", which is further than a standard web can reach. Therefore, they don't come with the space to fit a web alongside the standard prop mod and the point, and work best when fighting outside of standard web range where their lack of a web isn't a drawback, and an opponent's web may not be an advantage.

I'm not saying that these ships are all fast enough or otherwise good enough to actually execute a combat at this ideal range in practice every time. That's gonna depend on a lot of factors. The slicer has a relatively easier time fighting this way because it has a higher base speed and an optimal range bonus, while the punisher has a low base speed and no hull bonus to range and will require the right fitting and probably the help of friendly ships if you want to fly it this way. It's just a way in which it can be flown, if you can get what you need to pull it off on the field, for which having two mid slots isn't as much of a drawback.

Does that make more sense? I could be wrong!
Don Pera Saissore
#23 - 2017-05-04 06:00:16 UTC
Magnus Jax wrote:
No, most of them are slow with some very atypically fast exceptions.


With those lowslots they can be as fast as you want them to be
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#24 - 2017-05-04 07:59:21 UTC
Don Pera Saissore wrote:
Magnus Jax wrote:
No, most of them are slow with some very atypically fast exceptions.


With those lowslots they can be as fast as you want them to be


Yeah, my punisher can get to 8k+ m/s. I like to troll the enemies with that.
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