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Is PVE is a Loki / Legion / Proteus valid? Can they hack it in 0.0 anoms
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Nyangra
Doomheim
#1 - 2017-05-02 18:37:08 UTC
I was wondering, I've seen alot of Tengu / Ishtar / Machs and Rattlers in 0.0 in my time but are ships like the Loki / Legion and Proteus any good for this type of thing?
If so do you have fits and what is your experience with them?
I've seen ZAQQ do a Proteus which looks rather impressive.

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Nya
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#2 - 2017-05-03 07:28:43 UTC
Depends on the region.

Proteus- kin/therm locked but you can make a drone variant and use it elsewhere like an ishtar. No dank tracking bonus so less applied dps and 2x cost with the added bonus of losing SP. Good for escalations in Serpentis space, clone soldier hunting and stuff like that.

Loki- can swap ammo but only explosive is T2 so outside Angel space you will have to use faction. It's also confused if it's armor or shield. + ac's suck (or so I heard). Good support ship. TP's to paint the world red and a web bonus. So if you have 2 friends doing crappy dps might be ok if thanks to your ewar the rattlers or carriers can apply 100% of theirs.

Legion- em/therm locked. Would be a good pick since lazorz can get good dps at nice range, if not for the fact that rats in Amarr space tracking disrupt. Kill sleepers in a wh, self-destruct like I did with my Nightmare or use an alt to take care of TD.


All t3's are good at exploration if that's your thing. Tengu is everywhere because it can do everything, even without utilizing kinetic missile bonus, and it's the best hunter boat.

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#3 - 2017-05-06 11:38:02 UTC
Blade Darth wrote:
Depends on the region.

Proteus- kin/therm locked but you can make a drone variant and use it elsewhere like an ishtar. No dank tracking bonus so less applied dps and 2x cost with the added bonus of losing SP. Good for escalations in Serpentis space, clone soldier hunting and stuff like that.

Loki- can swap ammo but only explosive is T2 so outside Angel space you will have to use faction. It's also confused if it's armor or shield. + ac's suck (or so I heard). Good support ship. TP's to paint the world red and a web bonus. So if you have 2 friends doing crappy dps might be ok if thanks to your ewar the rattlers or carriers can apply 100% of theirs.

Legion- em/therm locked. Would be a good pick since lazorz can get good dps at nice range, if not for the fact that rats in Amarr space tracking disrupt. Kill sleepers in a wh, self-destruct like I did with my Nightmare or use an alt to take care of TD.


All t3's are good at exploration if that's your thing. Tengu is everywhere because it can do everything, even without utilizing kinetic missile bonus, and it's the best hunter boat.


Legion can be missile fitted. Not as good as the Tengu, mind you, but still. That makes the EM/Therm lock and EWAR vulnerability less of a problem in this case.

Also, T3C's are up for an overhaul soon and this kind of question might be better to ask afterwards. The Loki having an identity crisis with its tank, for instance, will be reorganized to make more sense. Rigs will be safe to remove without destroying them. There's more, but that's going off what they announced at Fanfest what they want to do with them when they get around to it.

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Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#4 - 2017-05-06 20:50:49 UTC
Missile legion range and dmg is so atrocious I didn't even consider it.

Waiting for the overhaul too.

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Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#5 - 2017-05-09 08:23:25 UTC
I think the Prot and the Tengu are the only 2 that are any good.

The both can tank and damage Serp and Gurista very well , the Tengu is every where because its Sub systems are broken, it gets crazy Cap/PWG and range.

The Loki would be good against Blood/Sansha but its damage/application is very poor.
The Legion has better DPS/Application than the Loki but not as good as the Tengu/Prot with the added issue that the race its tanked against (Angels) also has the highest EM resistance (HAM Sub is not great for PVE as the range/DPS is poor).
Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2017-05-21 23:49:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Alaric Faelen
All 3 of the 4 I can fly have done null anoms. They'll survive and they'll clear the rats, but of the ones I've flown the Tengu remains my go to strat cruiser for PvE. The Legion 2nd with the Prot 3rd. Never flown a Loki.

It's not that they can't 'hack' 0.0 anoms, it's just that there are better ships that can do it faster or with less bling.