Intergalactic Summit

Foiritan would have stooped so low, I'm afraid. He was the one who started the whole Black Eagles division inside the FIO and appointed Blaque at its head. He was the one who started the whole 'we must purge the traitors' thought that drove the Federation during the early stages of the Empyrean War.

If anything, it seemed that Jacus Roden stepped on the brakes before things got any worse. Granted, he didn't improve matters either. Though credit, where credit's due, sorting out the mess was going to be very difficult and he managed to do that at least.

Now that was an astute observation. He did indeed, though he didn't have much of a choice considering the post-invasion political realities.

Again, a very astute observation. Indeed he did. President Roden has been surprisingly moderate in his policies, all things considered.

I listen to those who clamor about 'war crimes' committed by our President and often wish they would enumerate them, if for nothing but my own edification.

I think he is the right man at the right time. Will times change, certainly, when they do the politics of it will shift.

Foiritan was anything but honorable. It is under that man the Federation sent Noir's Nyx to ram Malkalen station. It is under Foiritan gallente racists started attacking ethnic Caldari on Caldari Prime, put slogans to "Exterminate all Caldari", burned Caldari archeological digs and defaced monuments. And it was Foiritan who started this war with us, that lasts already for eight years.

And it also was Foiritan that ran away from his position like coward rat, not a honorable man, when we have defeated him in the war he has started.

I hope he will rot for what he did to Caldari State. But we will endure, we will carry on through anything gallente oppressors will throw at us. And we will win.

Assume whatever you wish. It won't change a thing about contracting biodomes to cartel that are later used as slave trade centers or using cartel identification markings on outposts that are protected by Republic combat vessels. Theatrics that you mentioned are there for a reason, in short it would be to costly for the Republic to publicly admit it.

Right, and I'm just to take your word for this, or is there actual proof you can convince me with? I know some people certainly deal with the Cartel, that is a no-brainer, but is there, you know, any indication that the Republic as a general whole is condoning it like the Empire is, or is it just deals made by some rotten locals?
Look, I'm open to believe you, if you have any evidence of widespread corruption, heck I'll be the first one to tear those bastards down with you.

Also I'm not sucking on my home empires teat anymore, this is not about me having some undying loyalty to the Republic, it is because this is the first I've managed to hear of this. So maybe tone down your preaching a little bit.

Of course the 'Republic as a whole' does not condone it, any more than the State as a whole condone business with the Gurista or the Federation with the Serpentis and so on and so forth. The Empire 'as a whole' does not condone the slave raids or breeding facilities either. There's both the genuine efforts taken against them as well as the dishonest bleating of 'oh it's illegal, so it's not really the Empire's fault'.

My word should of course never be enough in such a case, nor any sources I would point at given my choices and actions during my capsuleer career. If you seek evidence of these backroom deals and acts of corruption, I would recommend you contact veterans of Electus Matari or other less... disreputable sources. Most of them will grudgingly point you in the right direction, I suspect.

It'll be a bit more persuasive than my word, no?

It doesn't have to be the 'Republic as a whole' for it to be a stain on the Tribes. If we're to condemn the Empire's actions within our borders, we have to admit to the crimes of our own making or it'd be hypocrisy at best. I am not 'preaching' at you or anyone else here. Merely providing the reminder that a critical eye needs to fall upon ourselves as much as our enemies.

Saying it's just some rotten locals - which still fall under the responsibility of the Tribes and Republic, no matter how we swing it - is not much different from the Empire claiming the slave raids and breeding facilities are just rogue admirals or criminals.

And yet there is still no war. Merely an area of space for capsuleers to shoot each other and play tug-of-war with a handful of systems that ultimately mean nothing. The capture of which results in nothing, and the empires can't be bothered enough to think anything in these systems is worth sending a fleet in to protect it.


The war is fake. At best it's a place to hone ones combat skills in preparation for a real conflict.

So all you can give me is pointing me towards even more capsuleers, and even that in the vaguest way possible? You'll forgive me if I'm not 100% sold. Mail me a lead if you for some reason can't say anything publicly.
Question is, then, if you know about this, why have you, or anyone else in the know, not informed the authorities? Like you said, it is a stain on the Tribes, one I'm sure they would gladly wash away if they were aware, especially when it comes to slavery being practiced within our own borders. Or are you then implying that the Republic is rotten to the very core, that no one in power is willing to act?

And yes, you were preaching or at the very least being very condesdending.

I am not going to prove to a blind woman that red apple is red.
You know nothing, Claudia Osyn.

However, 'Pendulum' is a very apt description of the conflict in the systems put aside for the sake of said conflict by the Emergency Militia Act. Dominance swings back and forth, over and over, and over, throughout the years of its existence. Exactly like a swinging pendulum. Hence the coining of the term.

It is not about maturity, it is about the observable effects and consequences and the absence of anything resembling permanence and the complete lack of an attempt by the sovereign nations, the supposed biggest stakeholders of this conflict, to ensure permanency in this conflict. Unless you have a better name for a conflict whose most defining feature is how dominance swings back and forth over and over again, we are going to keep calling it 'The Pendulum War'.