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Kill this crappy bounty system....

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Soloman Jackson
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2017-04-30 19:55:20 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Currently the Bounty System is nothing more than a grief tool that's abused and exploited sorely to antagonize and annoy players.

Bounty should only be allowed on criminal characters, not on law abiding citizens. The fact that it's sanctioned by Concord just flat out breaks immersion.



DMC



Seriously though, I understand as a bounty tool it's broken. But posting something about it every two weeks won't get it fixed.

Besides, This is the wrong forums section for player suggestions and ideas.

Someone posted a suggestion not too long ago that sounded promising. Bounties as contracts, to be bid on by bounty hunters.

DMC, you say it's a tool that is used for grief and exploited to antagonize and annoy other players. It only works like that if the player in question lets it affect them. Folks need to stop taking themselves so seriously.

o7

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#42 - 2017-04-30 20:20:35 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Currently the Bounty System is nothing more than a grief tool that's abused and exploited sorely to antagonize and annoy players.

Bounty should only be allowed on criminal characters, not on law abiding citizens. The fact that it's sanctioned by Concord just flat out breaks immersion.

DMC

The bounty system is nearly completely useless and should only antagonize people that don't get how it works. heck they should probably add an opportunity to get a bounty that gives a little explanation on that. I only ever received one bounty that I remember under the old system (there were a few smaller ones but it's been a while), and I put a 1b bounty on myself for lulz. Under the new system I've had a few 100k or whatever the minimum amount is which just means nothing.

Also null sec doesn't really have rules but it does have easy sec status gains, "Law abiding" becomes a very useless term. Perhaps it would make sense to tie the bounty to a kill right or ship loss?

if they remove or keep the bounty system doesn't make a difference to me, that said removing it is more work than keeping it, and modifying it is more work than either.

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Kim Joo Won
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2017-04-30 20:58:52 UTC
Soloman Jackson wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Currently the Bounty System is nothing more than a grief tool that's abused and exploited sorely to antagonize and annoy players.

Bounty should only be allowed on criminal characters, not on law abiding citizens. The fact that it's sanctioned by Concord just flat out breaks immersion.



DMC



Seriously though, I understand as a bounty tool it's broken. But posting something about it every two weeks won't get it fixed.

Besides, This is the wrong forums section for player suggestions and ideas.

Someone posted a suggestion not too long ago that sounded promising. Bounties as contracts, to be bid on by bounty hunters.

DMC, you say it's a tool that is used for grief and exploited to antagonize and annoy other players. It only works like that if the player in question lets it affect them. Folks need to stop taking themselves so seriously.

o7

what sensible human being would argue against addressing a Broken, non-functioning, meaningless system???

who would argue to keep something in game that has no value whatsoever???

CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#44 - 2017-05-01 01:13:01 UTC
I think you'll "Like" the bounty system a little bit when you kill the person with the highest bounty in the game XD
(last time i checked the guy had about 58billion bounty?)
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#45 - 2017-05-01 01:23:33 UTC
Kim Joo Won wrote:

what sensible human being would argue against addressing a Broken, non-functioning, meaningless system???

who would argue to keep something in game that has no value whatsoever???


But it does have meaning. It's the gift that keeps on giving. Bounty your enemies once and you receive a notification any time they die with a bounty on them (even if it wasn't your bounty).
It's also a nice little bit of extra isk for killing them which can be the difference for a ganker deciding to gank them or not if you put a real bounty on them.
And because it doesn't pay out everything at once, you can't use an alt to abuse the system.

Literally every other system people propose can be broken by alts, or doesn't allow you to bounty a competing miner (so the gankers always gank them instead of you) or a bumping mach (So anti gankers don't lose isk ganking them) etc etc.
And if you want to do it like a contract for someone who you believe needs punishment, there is an entire forum section where you can advertise for 'bounty hunters' at a price. You'll just have to be trusted enough or use a third party to do so.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#46 - 2017-05-01 09:06:52 UTC
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2017-05-01 12:46:00 UTC
Soloman Jackson wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Currently the Bounty System is nothing more than a grief tool that's abused and exploited sorely to antagonize and annoy players.

Bounty should only be allowed on criminal characters, not on law abiding citizens. The fact that it's sanctioned by Concord just flat out breaks immersion.



DMC



Seriously though, I understand as a bounty tool it's broken. But posting something about it every two weeks won't get it fixed.

Besides, This is the wrong forums section for player suggestions and ideas.

Someone posted a suggestion not too long ago that sounded promising. Bounties as contracts, to be bid on by bounty hunters.

DMC, you say it's a tool that is used for grief and exploited to antagonize and annoy other players. It only works like that if the player in question lets it affect them. Folks need to stop taking themselves so seriously.

o7

You must have me confused with someone else. I definitely don't post about the Bounty System every two weeks and I definitely didn't create this thread. Also it's mainly new players who get worried and freaked out about it because they don't know anything about it other then somebody for no reason at all just marked them as a Bounty target.

As for the current Bounty System game mechanic, it was a complete waste of Dev time. I agree CCP could have done a much better job with the actual game mechanics and created a meaningful 'Bounty Hunter' career option, could have even included some extra skills to train and or added some special Implants, etc, as well as created some new PvP 'Bounty Agents' to give out Bounty Contracts to qualified characters.

In it's current state, it's just a tool that's largely exploited and used for grief with the sole purpose of antagonizing and annoying other players. That's it and nothing more. Probably what CCP intended all along. The Bounty System itself doesn't affect or place any repercussions on Bounty Characters nor does it discourage players from engaging in criminal acts. Not to mention the actual Bounty payout itself is just a twisted sick joke.

In my opinion anyone who places a Bounty on other players is just wasting their ISK.


DMC
Salt Foambreaker
Greedy Pirates
#48 - 2017-05-02 16:15:56 UTC
The bounty system as it is now is just a cosmetic ego boost. I see bears all the time that are "wanted", lol, really, Mr 5.0 Sec Status?

I say add some good ole Kill Rights Big smile

1. The person who places a bounty automatically also grants a kill right to the person who they placed the bounty on.
2. If you have a bounty, you are attackable by anyone
3. If you have a bounty and you kill the person who placed the bounty on you, the bounty they placed is revoked along with the kill rights.
Murkalael Arbinger
Nullvoid Tech
#49 - 2017-05-02 16:59:11 UTC
This system is funny, I got my first bounty when I was congratz a player for a Raitaru and someone didn't like it.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2017-05-02 17:03:49 UTC
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:
I think you'll "Like" the bounty system a little bit when you kill the person with the highest bounty in the game XD
(last time i checked the guy had about 58billion bounty?)

Bounty size only matters when % of ship/fitting cost is high. Else you get chips.

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#51 - 2017-05-02 17:43:24 UTC
I just found it amusing that CODE donated all that ISK to PL when I went pop...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

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Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2017-05-03 11:04:09 UTC
awwww, I missed all the fun with the op. Ah well.
personally I think the bounty system can do with some improvement, as is there really is zero reason for anyone to actively try and collect on it. but whatever improvements get made to it, there should not be restrictions on who can place a bounty on whom or for what reasons. personally I like it when I have a bounty on me, because it means that i'm getting out there and creating content for people enough that they feel the need to donate some money to the cause. (although these days my market alt carries a bigger bounty than my main)
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#53 - 2017-05-03 13:33:11 UTC
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Elonaris Pokto
Doomheim


There has been a lot of this lately. I'm betting it's like one dude who is really really bored.
Ravnik
Infinate Horizon
#54 - 2017-05-03 16:18:27 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
awwww, I missed all the fun with the op. Ah well.


I am suspecting the OP rage quit because he has amassed numerous bounties........Pirate

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly..........

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