Player Features and Ideas Discussion

If your LP / ISK income streams are not affected by alpha clone FW plexing then why do you even care how much they make?
And why should they be nerfed into the ground simply because you do not like them?


As Daichi says, then the problem is the FW system not the alpha clones that participate in it.
I did my time in FW years ago because everyone told me it was "the" place to find PvP, left that useless crap behind because even way back then stabbed to hell farmers were common and it was nearly impossible to find fights. On top of that the way the payouts are handled the system does not work well for what it is supposed to be, a war about defending your faction, or attacking another.


If they are bots then report them and let CCP sort it all out, that is the proper thing to do.

Setting that aspect of it aside nerfing the income of players that are following the rules is a terrible idea because it punishes those who are actually playing the game according to the rules. Yet those who are willing to risk the ban hammer will always find a way to run more bots or move on to something else where there botting ways will make them more ISK.


There is no doubt that FW farming and in fact the entire FW system needs a major overhaul but nerfing the ability of the alpha state clones to make LP / ISK is not the proper way to do it if for no other reason than it does nothing to address the farming nature and culture that is FW at this point in the games history.

You state that Alpha clones farming is a problem.
Actually that should be a question, not a statement of fact. not everyone feels it is, let alone It means we should support anything that removes the opportunity for new players to try what for them is a very high risk activity.

Now it is arguable that Plex farming is not exactly a balanced feature, should not the attention be on that rather than Kill the new players fun?

Isn't it funny that all the changes that have taken place to encourage PVP, by nerfing farmers never actually seem to achieve that goal? And yet players demand more?

Maybe it is easier to nail all the farmers to the floor, to enable a nice bit of killboard padding, that help? Oh and remove the standings hit, and a free Pony, don't forget the free pony.