Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The 'aperture' between old and new space would certainly be camped if it was accessible to the concurrent waves of players. If instead it is more a cinematic reference, and the grid is otherwise detached, we would see different behavior.

The other technicalities such as whether shipyards would need to be attached to more intact power sources (i.e. further salvage required) are opportunities for exploration and commitment to the new format beyond the first month of subscription.

Ah, block didn't work, let that Pass, Firstly I have never said Ganking would be prevented. I stated it would be a tactical choice not the lazy default action. And require intelligent tactical play

Did you read the bit about the attraction mechanic for NPCs and how they are attracted by repetitive agressive behavior? And the part discussing gate camps, and lazy behaviour? And how this would inversely scale from the entry system? And how it would not stop ganking but it would require tactical play? And prevent the talentless sitting in the entry system podding every pod that would come in? Thought not.

If you cannot be bothered to read beyond the introduction, I have no desire to explain further to you.

If you want to know more, read, no one is going to give you a handbook, stapled to your forehead so that others can tell you what it said.

Read on, there's only four pages of posts. On one of them It clearly states that players will have to discover tactics and not expect lazy tactics in new eden to carry automatically over, and how lazy gatecamping will have undesireable results if it is too regular.

Players will need to learn, not have handed everything to them with a guidebook. So you will NOT find every answer to how you thrive and survive here, but you will NOT be able to assume that whatever you do In new eden will have the same result in Newspace.

Moo invented gatecamping, and nearly broke early EVE, do you honestly expect CCP to allow themselves to make the same mistake again?

What you see as not-eve is a result of your experience. Newspace will be EVE rebooted, less forgiving of the lazy and ignorant. Now THAT is EVE.

Now we get to the real point.

Of course you would rather the Devs do not waste YOUR time. All dev time is meant to be for null isn't it.

As you read newspace is not for the settled, tame, self entitled and Lazy, it is hilarious how a Goon can use the word sandbox with a straight face. Could you really not see the contradiction in your sentence as you wrote it?

So, lets have a moment of clarity here, It is crystal clear that Newspace™ will be an environment initially for those of a pioneering mentality, people who seek an escape from the rules and restrictions, of new Eden, The predictable, the lazy opportunities, the staged wars, and sovereignty and ownership.

Hilariously you point out that Gatecamps exist because they are artificial bottlenecks, that force limited interaction, so they naturally get taken advantage of, and then cry it is sandbox breaking when something open and unrestricted, that requires people to think and play is to be made available, and the crippling artificial restriction is cleared away in a new area of the game that you never need to go to.

Saying it is a Sandbox does NOT mean that things always stay the same, and it isn't wrong for it to be given a few new toys, and the broken glass cleaned out. Worse, you are simply expecting and even worse assuming as a "right" that CCP will put the same broken glass in a new area of the sandbox.

It was blindingly obvious from the first post Newspace was not for you, I wondered why, you kept posting diverting and confusing posts, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, as whatever your motivations, other people would see the answer, and that may clear up matters in THEIR minds, so an overall good could be achieved. Later, there was little value to others to be derived, and I wanted to see your goals.

Now we have them, It is the typical and familiar justification. You do not want it, so no one else can be permitted have it.

Now THAT is the self entitled behaviour so many want to get Far Far away from, the belief that it is only YOU and your limited playstyles that deserve the attention of CCP, and for them to even THINK about anyone else is somehow not EVE.

Get used to it, you are not an only child, there are others in this Great EVE family, and their needs are as great as yours.

Thousands will absolutely ADORE Newspace™ And thousands of new players to come, Players that will pay Good money, to Keep the Devs paid, and the servers spinning.

We will thrive and survive there, Building strength, finding friends, and having an absolute ball.

You can dread the Day the gates are finally Opened, Because the players who come out from Newspace, Blinking into the Bright lights of New eden will Not be stale and ossified, terrified of something that for them will be a new experience.

And the last thing on their minds will be to spend their time farming null, it will not be NPCs they intend to farm.

We will not want your Sovereignty, we will come for your heart and soul.

We will seek to convert you to what we have joyfully earned and learned, for you to cast off the chains that bind you, the familiar and comfortable, that bind so very tightly.

OR feast on your bones, either works.

Now THAT is EVE

When the gate is built, you will be very welcome, antimatter will be exchanged, and other gifts.

Jove space should be in eve imo ... something different ,something unique and something that I have wanted since starting eve many years ago
I'm unsure why people don't want to explore I'm guessing they are happy with what they have which is great but the idea of exploring uncharted space and discovering the secrets within to me at least sounds exciting .

Such bitterness, show me on the map where the bad goonie touched you.

Read the post and watch you endlessly try to save the phenomenon? I have, and all i saw was a poor attempt to restart eve and split the game in a quite obvious attempt to "rebalance" things and open up a place where the large organized groups don't have things their way.

I pointed out that large organized groups have things for a reason, and that is because they have common goals among their members. In your new world it would be no different. Goons aren't trying to ruin the game, goons are trying to ruin YOUR game.

No matter what CCP does, we will be there to abuse the changes to our benefit because that is the point: use the system to achieve goals. Your bitterness shows it is working, you used it as a bump. Enjoy another bump.

The prevalence of new NPC combat encounters has me questioning your stance on this Teckos. We may see some very smart, very dangerous NPC gate camps in any part of EVE ahead.

There do seem to be regular suggestions from the playerbase, to open up just this type of content.

Lets see If CCP have the imagination and time to make it possible.