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Faction Warfare is F'd and something needs to be done
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Madras Dawnkeeper
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2017-05-10 18:32:15 UTC
Vokan Narkar wrote:
Hmm ok so the alpha stab farmers are not even present at screen so whats stopping you to put two faction scrams and farm them?


Farm what? Empty Ventures? And where's the fun in that?
Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#42 - 2017-05-10 20:09:15 UTC
FW is useless.
Vokan Narkar
Doomheim
#43 - 2017-05-10 20:13:25 UTC
Madras Dawnkeeper wrote:
Vokan Narkar wrote:
Hmm ok so the alpha stab farmers are not even present at screen so whats stopping you to put two faction scrams and farm them?


Farm what? Empty Ventures? And where's the fun in that?

You don't mind killing alpha clones with their low-skill t1 pvp fit in your garmur so why would you mind this?

You know the problem here is that as alpha clone I have less than zero chance to beat anyone with some experiences and t2 fit who come to my plex. So why bother? Why choose to stay and ineviatebly lose ship with no chance to put at least some resistance? It is only logical that alpha clones are instead farming in low-traffic systems with stabbed frigate or venture. The only one I could fight would be another alpha and so many times when I saw month old char it turned to be someone's alt with t2 drones and t2 weapons.

Btw I am not farming those plexes, I simply left FW. Im just pointing that current situation is logical from the alpha's point of view.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2017-05-11 10:47:46 UTC
Vokan Narkar wrote:
Madras Dawnkeeper wrote:
Vokan Narkar wrote:
Hmm ok so the alpha stab farmers are not even present at screen so whats stopping you to put two faction scrams and farm them?


Farm what? Empty Ventures? And where's the fun in that?

You don't mind killing alpha clones with their low-skill t1 pvp fit in your garmur so why would you mind this?

You know the problem here is that as alpha clone I have less than zero chance to beat anyone with some experiences and t2 fit who come to my plex. So why bother? Why choose to stay and ineviatebly lose ship with no chance to put at least some resistance? It is only logical that alpha clones are instead farming in low-traffic systems with stabbed frigate or venture. The only one I could fight would be another alpha and so many times when I saw month old char it turned to be someone's alt with t2 drones and t2 weapons.

Btw I am not farming those plexes, I simply left FW. Im just pointing that current situation is logical from the alpha's point of view.

Well... the problem here is:
- if you have no chance to fight why you are in FW? What is your target here? What's the purpose?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#45 - 2017-05-11 14:45:29 UTC
I feel for you FW guys, but you can't even band together enough to get a CSM representative. How do you expect to sway CCP away from their null-centric ways?
Harute Zateki
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2017-05-12 08:57:36 UTC
Desmios Sanguis wrote:
For the past 3 years (for the most part) gal/min have totally dominated amarr/caldari in faction warfare; it is getting to the point now where it is incredibly STUPID to even join calmil as you get -50% loyalty point gains, while galmil gets +75%.

I cannot join galmil as it would ruin my standings in space that I need jump clones.

Is everyone really OK with it being this 1-sided?



1 recruit better pvpers, 2 recruit better pvpers

Galmil and Minmatar milita are always winning because they have groups of players who work good as a team to achive goals

while when you look at amarr/caldari they dont have the team focus, and therefor dont strive to be better
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