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Xhjx's demand is now annulled!

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Arrendis
TK Corp
#21 - 2017-04-24 04:12:42 UTC
Ascentior wrote:

I believe it might be easily translated to "If you are willing to change loyalty regularly, you can always have a large group of people behind you"


Some of us don't need to change loyalty for that. But I do hope Vaari joins Horde.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2017-04-24 13:17:29 UTC
Ascentior wrote:
Utari Onzo wrote:
Not sure a loyalist Amarrian Lord would need the help of an estranged Khanid Angel sympathiser. I assume you have Pandemic Horde's top leadership at your beck and call Mokk to be making such a generous offer, that or just playing to the fact PH already operates in the region as 'proof' of such an offer.

I believe it might be easily translated to "If you are willing to change loyalty regularly, you can always have a large group of people behind you"



I believe that even as an Archangel I'm far above the petty yelps of the Amarrian peasantry.

I believe that if certain wastrels of the Amarr Bloc will not render aid in this matter, they should mind their manners and their tongues and let their better make the decision on where he wants to reside and with whom he'd prefer to ally himself with.

My offer of support is genuine and without an agenda.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
#23 - 2017-04-24 13:29:31 UTC
I will never work with heathens, no matter how desperate my situation is. I have feud with just CVA not rest of the Providence. I cannot accept help from anyone who see entire ProviBlock as their enemies.

Fear the God and honor the Empress!

-House Valius battle shout.

Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2017-04-24 13:37:23 UTC
Vaari wrote:
I will never work with heathens, no matter how desperate my situation is. I have feud with just CVA not rest of the Providence. I cannot accept help from anyone who see entire ProviBlock as their enemies.



My Lord,

Then I will keep you in my prayers.

I should point out though that while there are many heathens here, there are those of us who still follow the Faith. We still serve God, if not the Empire that's abandoned Him. You would have been an invaluable ally in helping to provide sober and true guidance to those of us who still follow Him, even if the Path He has put us on has lead us away from Amarr.

Be that as it may, I wish you luck and God's Grace.


"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#25 - 2017-04-24 16:37:53 UTC
I didn't see you working behind the scenes to prevent him being made KOS every time CVA were slow to punish heretics within its own ranks.

I didn't see you assist him when trying to defend the Amarr religion against hyperliberalism and heathens.

I didn't see you working with him to bring about restitutions in multiple cases, defending him when he has been right on a point even in the face of a hostile reaction by former, or at the time current, corporation workers.

I haven't seen you do these things because you've been nowhere in the Amarrian circles, except to opportunistically come and gloat.

I've defended him whereever and whenever I could when he was in the right, but I have no power in this situation given the deep personal insults he levied against senior members of CVA. The rules on that front are quite clear. As for my previous, and any future endevours, I don't need to advertise every single one of them here on the IGS. I'll be too busy doing something productive instead.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Leo d'Green
Imperial Dreams
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#26 - 2017-04-24 17:10:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Leo d'Green
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
As for HORDE, if he wanted to join, he'd be an invaluable asset and very welcome. I would be honored to fly with him.

May you get what you wish for.
Ilan Ardishapur
Purity of the Throne
#27 - 2017-04-24 17:19:20 UTC
CVA has long been corrupted to its core since the departure of Lord Aralis, just as the Empire has with the disgusting mutt-empress. Curatores Veritatis Alliance like the Throne have been tainted by seating a non-believer and one of unpure blood at the charge of billions of faithful followers.

Lord Vaari now is the time to join your brothers and sisters of the faith. Now is the time to take action against those who would fracture the very core of our faith, throwing it aside for mere monetary gain!
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2017-04-25 00:17:21 UTC
Utari Onzo wrote:
I didn't see you working behind the scenes to prevent him being made KOS every time CVA were slow to punish heretics within its own ranks.

I didn't see you assist him when trying to defend the Amarr religion against hyperliberalism and heathens.

I didn't see you working with him to bring about restitutions in multiple cases, defending him when he has been right on a point even in the face of a hostile reaction by former, or at the time current, corporation workers.

I haven't seen you do these things because you've been nowhere in the Amarrian circles, except to opportunistically come and gloat..



You are correct.

There is much you don't see.

You didn't see the rot in the Empire and in CVA nearly a decade ago (as pointed out by Lord Ardishapur).

There is much I have not seen of you. When Lord Vaari pointed out the shortcomings in CVA many, mnay years ago and was looking at Querious, I offered, through the Khanid Provincial Vanguard, to assist. I don't recall your support being given at that time.

I wasn't able to but perhaps you were able to defend the Ark from Dark Tinator?

I see Lord d'Green has chimed in here. Where were you Utari when he declared war on Lord Vaari?

Where were you when I named Vaari a traitor and bade the Imperial Pharmacy to rise up against him? And where were you when I and many others called for peace as the war spun out of control? Where were you when AAA burned Providence?

Were you an actual Amarr, you would value the wisdom of thoughts that span decades and centuries, instead of reacting to whatever flashes across you holo.

In truth? Lord Vaari and Lord d'Green have bickered like an old married couple and fought and made up more times than I can count. Their passion and hatred of each other ebbs and flows like a tide of spite across Providence. You must learn to ride the tides of history. I offer Vaari support, because it's traditional that I offer him support. He politely refuses and things carry on.

Give yourself another decade or so and your vision problems should clear up.


"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2017-04-25 06:46:54 UTC
It's ok man, Provibloc doesn't like most people. Apparently I'm on their KOS list as well. I've never even been to Provi.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Arrendis
TK Corp
#30 - 2017-04-25 12:22:40 UTC
Jason Galente wrote:
It's ok man, Provibloc doesn't like most people. Apparently I'm on their KOS list as well. I've never even been to Provi.


I'm not. I hear they've got a 'Kill Beyond Visual Range' list for Goons.
Loai Qerl
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#31 - 2017-04-25 18:15:37 UTC
It broke my heart to see the blame for the entirety of Kyonoke's containment failure placed on Lord Vaari's shoulders not once but TWICE at the Inquest. These attributions to Lord Vaari came in the form of amendments to the voting matters at hand, and could not themselves be voted on independently. The first time this treacherous act was undertaken, its parent measure failed.

The next day, when the development of a successful treatment was finalized, the two measures at hand vere destruction of all infected sites and immediate use of the treatment. I suspect everyone knows how that went, and I don't wish to discuss that part of the matter. What was most troubling was that the parent measure authorizing this, the parent measure without which the whole mass of infected would be classed cluster wide...it was necessary to vote in agreement with the amendment that this was all Lord Vaari's fault.

It caused me physical pain to do this. What a rotten, petty thing to put in the mouths of unrelated parties--many of whom hold Lord Vaari dear!

I do not know for certain that it was CVA, but the assumption is reasonable. Regardless who was responsible, however, I would like Lord Vaari to know the circumstances of treachery at hand if anyone presumes to lay blame in earnest. And given such a background of treachery, I applaud Lord Vaari's decision to conduct himself independently and free of these shameful constraints, guided by God's light and his own judgement.

Shine on, Golden Mountain! Heart!
Arrendis
TK Corp
#32 - 2017-04-25 18:33:21 UTC
Loai Qerl wrote:
I do not know for certain that it was CVA, but the assumption is reasonable.


Actually, it was me. That was 100% pure Goonwaffe puppetmastery at work. And you still have no idea who my agents were, or what their end goal was! Know this, though: we were successful, beyond our wildest dreams.

Hey, maybe we're the ones Rook and Vulture were working for, who were testing out the weaponized speck. I mean, if we were, it'd stand to reason we wouldn't want the cure rushed out all over the place, right? That we'd call into question all of the safety procedures? That we'd have at least one visible agent like Mr. 15 there to demonstrate our good faith?

By the way, thanks for making sure the research on the counter-agent will all be published so we don't have to waste time experimenting to figure out what alterations need to be made.

But of course, I'm only kidding.





.... or am I?
Loai Qerl
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#33 - 2017-04-25 18:34:59 UTC
I won't ask how could you. I'm sad, that's all.
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#34 - 2017-04-25 18:42:45 UTC
It was authored by a CEO of a CVA corporation who had an axe to grind. I make no judgement on the right or wrong of it.

Sorry to rain on your parade Arrendis, but Lord Vaari and his words and actions through his long career have upset enough influencial people in Providence to have made this a thing.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#35 - 2017-04-25 18:49:48 UTC
That amendment's subsequently been given about as much attention as it seems to deserve. You pretty much have to talk to people who were actually there for the vote to even know it exists.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#36 - 2017-04-25 19:05:36 UTC
Utari Onzo wrote:
It was authored by a CEO of a CVA corporation who had an axe to grind. I make no judgement on the right or wrong of it.

Sorry to rain on your parade Arrendis, but Lord Vaari and his words and actions through his long career have upset enough influencial people in Providence to have made this a thing.


It's all been a long con! A long con I tell you! We've been playing you for years! Decades! TEH SWURM IZ EFFERTRYWAREZEZ!!!!

Heh.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#37 - 2017-04-25 19:11:33 UTC
So Vaari's loud, uneducated braying has finally gotten him into hot water with the powers-that-be among the Provibloc slavers, eh?

Lol

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Ascentior
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#38 - 2017-04-26 00:36:11 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
Ascentior wrote:
Utari Onzo wrote:
Not sure a loyalist Amarrian Lord would need the help of an estranged Khanid Angel sympathiser. I assume you have Pandemic Horde's top leadership at your beck and call Mokk to be making such a generous offer, that or just playing to the fact PH already operates in the region as 'proof' of such an offer.

I believe it might be easily translated to "If you are willing to change loyalty regularly, you can always have a large group of people behind you"



I believe that even as an Archangel I'm far above the petty yelps of the Amarrian peasantry.

I believe that if certain wastrels of the Amarr Bloc will not render aid in this matter, they should mind their manners and their tongues and let their better make the decision on where he wants to reside and with whom he'd prefer to ally himself with.

My offer of support is genuine and without an agenda.


One can believe as one likes. It does not make it any more true.
That you think you would have any knowledge of action taken by those loyal to Amarr on this matter betrays your ignorance.

Admiral of PIE Inc., Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris (See 'PIE Public' for recruitment)

Honorary Fabricator-General of the Imperial Navy

Chosen by God to serve the Empire.

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