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Bounty Hunting

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Mike Adoulin
Hell House
Hell Dawn
#21 - 2017-04-17 20:40:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Mike Adoulin
^^^^^

This, pretty much.

To OP: You do realize that you can be a murderous monster in wormhole and null and lose absolutely ZERO security status, yes?

Then move to hisec, run missions, yadda yadda yadda. grind up to a +5 or higher sec status while still taking holidays in null/w-space and making Vlad Tepes look like a saint?

As long as CCP allows alts the system we have now, while not perfect by any means, seems to sorta kinda work.

Roll

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Parking Enforcement
The Free Folk
#22 - 2017-04-17 22:57:55 UTC
You don't even grow/buy alts. You only need to pay some extra ISK to the guy who has grown +5s for exactly this purpose. Like how there are locator channels in which people locate for a fee now.
Glitch Online
License To Steal
#23 - 2017-04-18 17:10:43 UTC
Olmeca Gold wrote:

No, I'd rather playing the bounty hunter in a balanced, well thought system. Unfortunately yours is not.


Its an idea, not a demand. My thoughts are as valid as yours.



Olmeca Gold wrote:

NPC standings is the worst thing you can tie a bounty system into. Say at some point in my career I did FW. I will have bad standings for the opposing faction. Then I make a nullsec trillionaire lord mad on social media, reddit or forums. He buys a toon with right standings, keeps purchasing LP and places infinite bounties on me. What does my FW career even have to do with this nullsec lord? Nothing. What did this nullsec lord do to benefitr this NPC faction? Nothing. But you just give him means to **** me.


Like most ideas, they can be tweaked. I tried to write a short version of the entire system, details need to be worked out. FW can be excluded you know.
I'll repeat what i said before, since you have issues understanding. If a bounty is placed on you, it can ONLY BE EXECUTED in the space where you have that negative standing. This is no different than the Faction Police locking you down and killing you because they don't like you.
If a null sec lord really wanted to "****" you, he can also just hire a merc group to follow you and gank you, and not leave you alone.



Olmeca Gold wrote:

Everyone has that one NPC corp for which they have negative standings. There are a lot of ways you can get - standings for an NPC faction. Why am I a "bad citizen" because I did FW? Why am I a bad citizen because I decline some missions from an NPC corp. I didn't gank anyone? I didn't pirate? Also, there are shitloads of "bad citizens" with +10 security status and all positive NPC standings in this game. NPC standings mean nothing to show who's the bad guy or pirate. They are mostly PvE means to access missions and LP store and earn ISK.

Faction warfare can be excluded/tweaked.
There are also ways (tags) to get your standing back up.
Faction Police can already kill you for entering the "factions" space.
+10 bad citizens are doing no different than crime lords. we all know they're bad, but they play the system well (tags)
NPC standing WOULD mean more than PVE. If you have bad standings with another faction already due to your (-) mission running, you are probably not going there anyways (thought i'd clarify this cus you don't seem to get it)



Olmeca Gold wrote:

Meanwhile, the real 'victims' often will not have the chance to place bounties, as their gankers will most likely not have negative standings for NPC factions which they have positive standings. So you not only have given nullsec lords means to **** someone's life, but also didn't solve any of their issues as well.

Yes, because the 'Nullsec Lords' don't already '****' with people. Also, stop assuming every one that plays a 'ganker' IS a nulllsec lord. Not all bad guys are rich, and not all rich guys are bad.



Olmeca Gold wrote:

You sound like a perfect hisec carebear mission runner with zero knowledge over anything else in this game. You died to someone and want to place a meaningful bounty on the ganker. But you need stop your arrogance and heed people's advice. Try to research and learn this game's mechanics fully before making suggestions. Thanks.

I propose and idea, a thought, nothing more.
You came down not only talk it down (the idea), and with out knowing who i am, how i play, what i've done in my eve career, you accuse me judging a mechanic with zero knowledge. You are doing exactly that, Judging me and assuming things about me with out actually knowing me, Good Job.
Glitch Online
License To Steal
#24 - 2017-04-18 17:12:43 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
^^^^^

This, pretty much.

To OP: You do realize that you can be a murderous monster in wormhole and null and lose absolutely ZERO security status, yes?

Then move to hisec, run missions, yadda yadda yadda. grind up to a +5 or higher sec status while still taking holidays in null/w-space and making Vlad Tepes look like a saint?

As long as CCP allows alts the system we have now, while not perfect by any means, seems to sorta kinda work.

Roll


Null is null... WH is WH... Bounty system should not apply.. its lawless space after all.
Glitch Online
License To Steal
#25 - 2017-04-18 17:14:55 UTC
Parking Enforcement wrote:
You don't even grow/buy alts. You only need to pay some extra ISK to the guy who has grown +5s for exactly this purpose. Like how there are locator channels in which people locate for a fee now.


Mob connections... yes. As in RL, if you have the ability to get away with a crime and keep your self out of prison, why not.
Dark Lord Trump
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2017-04-20 02:24:17 UTC
Glitch Online wrote:
Dark Lord Trump wrote:
Explain to me how it's a good idea for someone to shoot me in hisec with no CONCORD and make me lose skillpoints. Explain why we should screw over alpha clones even harder. Explain why this works in the lore. Explain how the skillpoint loss occurs. Explain what combination of recreational chemicals prompted this idea.



I would, but it may confuse you more.

You have revealed yourself as a troll, good sir.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!

Glitch Online
License To Steal
#27 - 2017-04-20 03:39:44 UTC
Dark Lord Trump wrote:
Glitch Online wrote:
Dark Lord Trump wrote:
Explain to me how it's a good idea for someone to shoot me in hisec with no CONCORD and make me lose skillpoints. Explain why we should screw over alpha clones even harder. Explain why this works in the lore. Explain how the skillpoint loss occurs. Explain what combination of recreational chemicals prompted this idea.



I would, but it may confuse you more.

You have revealed yourself as a troll, good sir.


oh no, you caught me, what ever shall i do!!!
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#28 - 2017-04-26 08:31:26 UTC
Doesn't this belong in the ideas and suggestions forum?Shocked

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#29 - 2017-04-26 09:01:33 UTC
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Doesn't this belong in the ideas and suggestions forum?Shocked

Like that needs another terible idea thread Lol

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Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#30 - 2017-04-26 09:04:38 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Doesn't this belong in the ideas and suggestions forum?Shocked

Like that needs another terible idea thread Lol


Lol. Touche.. good pointLol

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#31 - 2017-04-30 20:56:07 UTC
Bounty hunting needs the same "help" that drug (and walnut) smuggling should have gotten.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#32 - 2017-04-30 21:59:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Ima Wreckyou
So if I have positive standings with all factions or multiple chars for that I can basically flag and kill everyone who ever ran a few missions and has therefor bad standing with at least one other faction for 1 sp without me having to deal with CONCORD?
Wanda Fayne
#33 - 2017-04-30 23:53:02 UTC
Misread the title as Booty Hunting...
whoopsBlink

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SupaL33tH4x0r Regime
Vheroknar Industrial Corporation
Vheroknar Tribe
#34 - 2017-05-01 10:08:54 UTC
get rid of alts and you'd have "friends" that'll want your isk or atleast split it with you
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#35 - 2017-05-01 22:16:03 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
So if I have positive standings with all factions or multiple chars for that I can basically flag and kill everyone who ever ran a few missions and has therefor bad standing with at least one other faction for 1 sp without me having to deal with CONCORD?

Seems pretty balanced and well thought out to me

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#36 - 2017-05-02 15:53:03 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
So if I have positive standings with all factions or multiple chars for that I can basically flag and kill everyone who ever ran a few missions and has therefor bad standing with at least one other faction for 1 sp without me having to deal with CONCORD?

Seems pretty balanced and well thought out to me

It is a hobby of mine to destroy bounty hunting ideas. So far I have not seen a single one which would not end in a complete disaster or just benefit the "bad guy". Well there was one from Tisi which was pretty good.
Areen Sassel
Dirac Angestun Gesept
#37 - 2017-05-02 20:28:48 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
It is a hobby of mine to destroy bounty hunting ideas. So far I have not seen a single one which would not end in a complete disaster or just benefit the "bad guy".


Out of interest, in which category do you place the ideas that come down to "I use an alt to collect the bounty on myself"?
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