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CCP hates Space Truckers in alpha clones WHY?

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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#21 - 2017-04-13 13:31:27 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
I apologize that you feel you're not getting your $0/month worth from this game.


#nopoorspls

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2017-04-13 14:21:18 UTC
hog butter wrote:

1. Tank it with warp core stabilizers. (Which you cannot do in a alpha clone on account you have tech 1 shield fittings and tech 1 warp core stabilizers)



I'm kind of curious as to why you think T2 stabs would help you haul in HS. Could you enlight me on why you think having slightly lower penalty to your scan res and lock range would help you in hauling stuff? Remember that T2 stabs also cost more to fit.
Keno Skir
#23 - 2017-04-13 14:25:56 UTC
Yebo Lakatosh wrote:
planning my trip manually, and paying few mils (or just my experience) to an alpha-scout


Yebo just won EvE again, by actually using a scout instead of complaining the game should be changed so he can haul solo.

OP : Nope, you get a truck and the ability to hire scouts. You don't need cloaks, t2 warp stabs (t1 is just as good so dunno what's the issue) or more industrial skill. You just need to stop trying to haul through lowsec solo and expect to be able to do it safely, or become an Omega for the cost of a movie and a drink..

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Zanar Skwigelf
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#24 - 2017-04-13 15:17:14 UTC
hog butter wrote:
So i have paid for the game over a dozen months and never played it due to cancellations mysteriously not going through. So to those who say I'm not getting my moneys worth didn't read the post.


Quote:
I discovered alpha clones so I resumed my space trucking


Trust me, we read your post.

Also, I'm sorry your extended trail gives you a taste of what you can do instead of giving you the entire cake for free.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#25 - 2017-04-13 15:31:14 UTC
hog butter wrote:
Entitled whine


You don't pay. Stop whining or go away.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#26 - 2017-04-13 15:33:03 UTC
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
OMFG yet another "waaaah give alphas more stuff" thread... wait... whats this... an actual well thought out argument, that points out a legitimate concern?? with at least 1 suggestion that actually makes a little bit of sense and doesn't completely break the concept of alphas... am i living in bizzaro world somehow?

1) warp core stab 2's... I can't actually see a reason why alphas couldn't have access to this, unless the pre-requisites are too high, in which case it would be fairly simple to lower those. and since warp stabs are meh at best, even the t2 variety, I can't see many downsides to alphas having access to them.

2) NO CLOAKS!!!! this has been covered multiple times, but I will let it slide this time, since its a fairly minor part of the proposal.

3) racial industrial 3... can't actually see much of a problem with this, would allow alphas to do a little bit more space trucking, but is hardly a game breaking change compared to the options omega's have.

although you automatically loose ALL points for not posting in the right subforum.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=270

Can you give a good reason against t1 cloaks? Cause I've never seen one.


Free cloaky AFK campers.
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2017-04-13 15:44:45 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
Can you give a good reason against t1 cloaks? Cause I've never seen one.


Free AFK cloaking alts everywhere would be bad.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#28 - 2017-04-13 17:12:18 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
Can you give a good reason against t1 cloaks? Cause I've never seen one.


Free AFK cloaking alts everywhere would be bad.







Yeah, replied too early and didn't read all the comments.
Aedaxus
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#29 - 2017-04-13 17:43:19 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
I apologize that you feel you're not getting your $0/month worth from this game.

He said he paid for 5 months without playing and CCP told him to bleepedy blank bleep. He's probably broke now as he can't manage his finances. That aside, back to topic :

He wants to play for free like before. He can, just save up 1200 million ISK. Then you have a month of free full playtime. If you can't get that much in EVE Online maybe either learn to play or play for free. But don't ask all advantages if you are both unwilling to pay AND unwilling to game for it.
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#30 - 2017-04-13 19:54:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Shallanna Yassavi
Nat Silverguard wrote:
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
I apologize that you feel you're not getting your $0/month worth from this game.


#nopoorspls

Modern translation:
#nocontentpls

Edit: The subscription model isn't this game at its worst. The design we've ended up with where you have to throw a lot more than $15/month at it to be "competitive" (or #notpoor) is.

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#31 - 2017-04-13 20:27:34 UTC
For people that assume CCP will stop billing their account when they cancel subscription, its not so easy. You had to cancel auto billing also. How it is now I dont know, but it was so earlier.

CCP are greedy bastards and there was reason why they would dont stop autobilling automatically, but make you check the option. Its all about the money.

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Cherry Sulphate
ojingo
#32 - 2017-04-13 22:45:54 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
For people that assume CCP will stop billing their account when they cancel subscription, its not so easy. You had to cancel auto billing also. How it is now I dont know, but it was so earlier.

CCP are greedy bastards and there was reason why they would dont stop autobilling automatically, but make you check the option. Its all about the money.


nana, if you had a newspaper column, i'd read it.
every. day.
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2017-04-14 00:49:17 UTC
Money moving from your credit card to someone's pocket has to be shut down at both ends of that pipe.
For a business to be all about the money is not news.
Adjust clothing before toilet, pls.


Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#34 - 2017-04-14 01:08:21 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
For people that assume CCP will stop billing their account when they cancel subscription, its not so easy. You had to cancel auto billing also. How it is now I dont know, but it was so earlier.

CCP are greedy bastards and there was reason why they would dont stop autobilling automatically, but make you check the option. Its all about the money.


Why is it that every time a company, such as CCP, makes a move strictly for profit, people cannot help but point the finger and call them evil for it? That's kind of the whole point, in case you missed it, of being in a business.

People go into business to make...what? You guessed it: Money. Of course it's all about the money, but what I don't get is why that offends people so damn much.

Not that I blame anyone for being frustrated with how an automated billing system works, or in this case, failed to work correctly in the manner the customer expected. Trust me, I know all too well how reliable automated billing systems are...or not, rather. Doesn't really make CCP "greedy bastards", though. Human and thus prone to error, perhaps, even with automation to help but hardly what you called them.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#35 - 2017-04-14 02:33:07 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
I apologize that you feel you're not getting your $0/month worth from this game.


Pandora's box has been opened, and the horrors unleashed on New Eden cannot easily be put back. Welcome to free to play eve.

This post brought to you by CCP's alpha forum alt initiative. Playing the eve forums has never come cheaper.
Orin Solette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2017-04-14 04:48:44 UTC
Alphas were created as an unlimited free trial, so gotta be careful about how much they get.

Cloaks are a definite no and stabs are probably a no because they're abusable. Racial industrial command ship skill to 3 probably makes sense.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2017-04-14 05:44:04 UTC
Space Truckin'

Blink

And while we're on the subject, CCP needs to bring the NPC Convoys back again, only this time with better loot.



DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#38 - 2017-04-14 06:16:03 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Money moving from your credit card to someone's pocket has to be shut down at both ends of that pipe.
For a business to be all about the money is not news.
Adjust clothing before toilet, pls.



I don't know what you're trying to tell a company when you cancel your subscription for whatever service, but when I cancel, I mean "I don't want to spend any money for that service right now."

A business also has to consider its reputation, and stuff like that isn't very good for it. You don't want to give a former customer a reason not to come back.

I don't know what credit cards are like, but Paypal's recurring payments section is hard to find unless you know where to look.

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#39 - 2017-04-14 06:44:59 UTC
Cancel once, not enough? Cancel twice, enough? Or maybe not? They would make you cancel everyday, to show them "you are perfectly sure", if they could. I see those mitigation mechanics everywhere. God knows how bad it would be if these things would not be regulated by law. Lifetime subscriptions without the option to resign?

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Keno Skir
#40 - 2017-04-14 09:44:12 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Nat Silverguard wrote:
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
I apologize that you feel you're not getting your $0/month worth from this game.


#nopoorspls

Modern translation:
#nocontentpls

Edit: The subscription model isn't this game at its worst. The design we've ended up with where you have to throw a lot more than $15/month at it to be "competitive" (or #notpoor) is.


Total rubbish. You only need real life cash to be competitive if you're a total scrub without 2 brain cells to rub together, and even then it usually doesn't make you any more competitive.

Pirate

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