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What do you do to stop thinking about work that doesn't involve drugs, alchohol or self-harm?
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Valei Khurelem
#1 - 2011-12-29 13:06:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
Pretty much the subject, the short version of what I'm going through right now is that even when I take breaks I keep thinking about this stuff even it's starting to stress me out because obviously, I'm not really taking a break since my brain is going by itself. Or do you lot think I should just keep at it until I get past the problem I'm thinking about?

Maybe I'm going stir crazy o_O lol >_>

Oh yeah, I'm sure the CCP devs will know the kind of **** that I'm talking about since I'm learning 2D art.

p.s. bashing my head against the desk until I stop thinking isn't a good idea because I need my brain

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Atticus Fynch
#2 - 2011-12-29 13:13:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Atticus Fynch
You may want to speak to a mental health professional. Seriously.

If you have reservations about it, let me explain it this way:

If you have liver issues, you see a doctor...he give you meds.
If you have heart issues, you see a doctor...he gives you meds.
If you have kidney issues, you see a doctor...he gives you meds.

The brain is just another organ and when the chemistry is off a bit it results in erratic behavior or obsessive thoughts and thinking. See someone and perhaps medication will help. After all, people who use illegal drugs are just medicating themselves in one sense or another.

The end game is to live a pain free and hopefully happy life.

Go get some help.

Good luck.

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Valei Khurelem
#3 - 2011-12-29 13:13:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
....... Can't tell if trolling -_-

I think I'll just stick with gaming for a bit than seeing a doctor it's not THAT kind of obsessive thinking :D lol

Anyway, you try learning anatomy and drawing within a year and not thinking about it tons :P

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2011-12-29 13:25:41 UTC
Watch this and continue to watch untill you catch up. All of your worries will vanish and you will learn to love and tolerate just about anything.Blink
Valei Khurelem
#5 - 2011-12-29 13:35:01 UTC
I suddenly feel like wanting to work is not such a bad thing :P

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Valei Khurelem
#6 - 2011-12-29 13:37:16 UTC
This seems to be working for me :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey4flFc--iQ

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Vicker Lahn'se
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-12-29 13:37:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Vicker Lahn'se
Do something active that requires you to concentrate. Learn a new instrument. Build a model. Work on a car. Cook something fancy.

It should be hands on and require your concentration, otherwise your mind will wander.

There's a Hindu proverb that relates to clearing one's mind for meditation, which compares the human mind to an elephant's trunk. If the elephant's trunk doesn't have something to hold, it will wander around, picking up all sorts of things. If you give the elephant a metal ball to hold into, its trunk will hold onto that and stay still. Similarly, if your mind has nothing to hold onto, it will wander and pick up things you don't want it to be holding. If you concentrate on something specific, you can clear your mind while focusing on that one thing.
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#8 - 2011-12-29 14:57:39 UTC
playing a computer game can be a good distraction...I heard good things about this game called eve online Blink
Valei Khurelem
#9 - 2011-12-29 15:00:01 UTC
You'll probably want to burn me at the stake for this but I find EVE Online too easy :P

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Zagam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-12-29 15:06:37 UTC
Medications may not be the answer, but medical/psychological help definitely would help in one fashion or another.
VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-12-29 15:43:34 UTC
Aggressive girl friend.

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Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-12-29 16:19:43 UTC
I have the opposite problem, I have not been able to work for two years and its difficult to find enough things to do and keep sane.
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#13 - 2011-12-29 16:38:59 UTC
" What do you do to stop thinking about work that doesn't involve drugs, alchohol or self-harm? "

Step 1: Leave the building
Step 2: Plug in headphones
Step 3: Walk away

Yup, that pretty much does it.

I think the golden rule is this: If you are not at work, then you are not getting paid to think about it.

There is nothing wrong with thinking about what you want to achieve today, on the way to to work. That's just normal and lets you write a list of what you want to do when you get to work.

Then you write another list of what is going to stop you doing that, and seek to remove those things systematically - if you need help from someone to get these things removed, then tell them.

If you still can't get done in the day what you wanted to get done - then you planned poorly and need to work extra hours to get them done - sorry.

If you are perpetually working longer hours and stressing, then I would suggest you either change your career, or change employer.

The underlining reason for your stress may be self-generating; you are stressed, because you are worried about becoming stressed, or being stressed under a certain set of conditions whilst at work, that haven't happened yet.

I think it's called 'catastrophizing' and can be incredibly damaging to ones self esteem.

AK

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SpaceSquirrels
#14 - 2011-12-29 16:48:37 UTC
Vaction...
Valei Khurelem
#15 - 2011-12-29 16:58:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
VKhaun Vex wrote:
Aggressive girl friend.


Oh how I wish I had one! LOL :D I only seem to know really passive girls who expect men to do everything for them :(

Oh and it finally stopped now, I guess I just needed a long break, I'm not employed right now unfortunately but if things go to plan I'll pretty much be self-employed once I get good enough, I'm enjoying the work so it's not that bad but I think I need to find more things to do now when I'm not drawing like crazy etc.

Thanks for that Alleykat by the way, that post was pretty insightful :P

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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#16 - 2011-12-29 18:30:31 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:


Thanks for that AlleyKat by the way, that post was pretty insightful :P


My pleasure.

It's just my take on getting stuff done; there are two questions I ask myself before starting work.

1) what do I want to do today?
2) what's stopping me?

That's all I need to complete, because once I know that I can actually start work.

You don't warp into combat without loading your ammo; so why is something you do in your spare time non-transferable to your professional life?

Simple really - and there are probably a gazillion books on time management or work ethics etc, yet for me it just comes down to two lists written into a letter-sized page-a-day-diary for a few $.

Tick as you go.

AK

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Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-12-31 11:51:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyprus Black
Ah ha! You overlooked a fourth option.

Sure there's drugs, alcohol and self-harm. But you haven't considered harm to others. See that? Thinking outside the box now and it feels great. Suicide is never the answer when homicide is available. Cause there's never a problem that can't be fixed by bumping someone else off.

If homicide is a little too messy for your conscious, you can still do harm to others through childish pranks and emotionally crippling (yet well timed and executed) insults. It's what we do in the Navy and I'm sure it could work in civilian life too. The world is your oyster so feel free to get stompin.

What? Oh don't give me that "high-n-mighty" routine. We all know you'd enjoy harming others. Your very presence in EvE Online is a testament to that fact.

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#18 - 2011-12-31 21:16:02 UTC
Atticus Fynch wrote:
You may want to speak to a mental health professional. Seriously.

If you have reservations about it, let me explain it this way:

If you have liver issues, you see a doctor...he give you meds.
If you have heart issues, you see a doctor...he gives you meds.
If you have kidney issues, you see a doctor...he gives you meds.

The brain is just another organ and when the chemistry is off a bit it results in erratic behavior or obsessive thoughts and thinking. See someone and perhaps medication will help. After all, people who use illegal drugs are just medicating themselves in one sense or another.

The end game is to live a pain free and hopefully happy life.

Go get some help.

Good luck.



ugh, what's with the chemical cocktail mix for "happiness"? As a qualified Mental Health worker, unless you have a very real natural organic brain imbalance or suffer from Axial DSM related disorder that gives the origin of your ailment as non neurotic, I will never ever refer any patient to a happy drug use/abuse chill pill psychiatrist.

He MIGHT have an organic dysfunction but if not, the drugs would simply make him worst. And having worked in a Psychiatric Hospital myself under the wing of several Psychiatrists (I'm a Psychologist) I know how pharma corps just glut MD's with their cocktail mixes of happiness to force them sometimes to give them to patients.

I remember my institution mentor giving happy pills to everyone since she had a stack of "samples" gleefully provided by all the reps from the Labs. I literally saw things in there that creeped me out more than the inmates attacks on me, blood splatering, screams and the voltage failures during electroshock therapy ( I live in Latinamerica, it's still used down here like in the horror movies of the north).

Thinking a drug when you DO NOT NEED it (as any RESPONSIBLE MD after a thorough medical examination will tell you) will help you solve your problems is woa, EVIL. That's more Self-harm and invalidates the OP's request for an alternative against his stress.

Also , as a side note, if you working in a 2D/3d/Designing/Architect/Blueprint related profession where you stress your mind constantly to "visualize"grids , as you sit for hours you are literally overheating your CPU without giving it proper airflow to put it in "lay terms". Stress and anxiety are common. You are not losing it you are just overheating. Big smile

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#19 - 2011-12-31 21:19:00 UTC
Cyprus Black wrote:
Ah ha! You overlooked a fourth option.

Sure there's drugs, alcohol and self-harm. But you haven't considered harm to others. See that? Thinking outside the box now and it feels great. Suicide is never the answer when homicide is available. Cause there's never a problem that can't be fixed by bumping someone else off.

If homicide is a little too messy for your conscious, you can still do harm to others through childish pranks and emotionally crippling (yet well timed and executed) insults. It's what we do in the Navy and I'm sure it could work in civilian life too. The world is your oyster so feel free to get stompin.

What? Oh don't give me that "high-n-mighty" routine. We all know you'd enjoy harming others. Your very presence in EvE Online is a testament to that fact.



He could sublimate this with paid sex. Big smile It's the common cure for many men down here in LatinAmerica, considering prostitution is legal here Panama, ANYONE can see how the sex tourism industry here is booming.

Channeling destructive urges through sexuality though not the best course, it's safer and more legal (sometimes) than hurting others with passive-agressive behavior or plain murder Blink

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Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-01-01 04:13:02 UTC
When i am not working i think about the following:
- sex
- work
- Gym work
- driving/my car
- ways to alter the state of the universe
- What gravity REALLY is

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