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CONCORD / Police

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#21 - 2017-04-11 12:49:47 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
@Tora
Concord is an esential in this game. We would never police effectively enough to keep eve's ecconomy running. That said Fac Po are kinda ****** and could be replaced by players in areas but I think there needs to be more too it than simply switching them off and thats the end of the mechanic. If you wanted players to police a system they would need to feel like it was theirs somehow and be ready to defend it


Currently, if you align yourself to an empire via faction warfare, the only enemies of your chosen empire that you can shoot at are opposing faction warfare players.

But imagine if faction warfare players could legally shoot at any player with -5 standings or lower towards their chosen empire? There would likely need to be some overview buffing so that you can tell who has low standings and who doesn't, but I think this could open up a lot of interesting gameplay options and maybe increase interest in faction warfare somewhat.

This wouldn't be a replacement for the FacPo, and especially not for CONCORD.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#22 - 2017-04-11 13:03:00 UTC
I can't stress this enough. Any changes to content need an anchor in PVE. Changes to allow more ships to shoot each other may sound great to us but the goal is to make content more desireable and approachable for more people.

A change to remove concord from Highsec would literally kill it off completely. How many of us commenting here would not abuse a system that allowed us to attack other players without concord interfering. I can tell you none of the C&P regualars in here would be posting we would all be busy cleaning out the unwary on day 1 that didn't read their patch notes until all highsec couldnt undock and we only had each other to shoot at.

Almost every other MMO out there has 100% safe starting areas and even mostly safe dip your toes areas. The only successful MMO I can think of where it's possible to still kill somebody anywhere with a full drop model is eve. Without the extreamly light restrictions eve has on PvP in highsec we would kill it. Now I'm not saying it needs to get safer but it sure as hell doesn't need to be destroyed in a week or less

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#23 - 2017-04-11 13:59:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Noragen Neirfallas
A little story from another game I was testing out a few weeks back called Albion. We were running an open world dungeon and won a DPS contest against another group but the loot bugged out so after 2 mins it was free for all. Without a single dissenting voice I had the rest of my party flag up (for 10 mins min) and dunk the other party throwing away our reputations and ability to actually enter safe zones for about an hour of farming but more importantly about 10 hours of PVE grinding to get 'glorious rep' back. This is basically in eve going from +5 to -6 in one go.

Anywho this group of PVE only nerds with 0 kills to their names and 0 desire to go looking for trouble flagged up and attacked this other group over an unknown loot drop that was rightfully theirs in their mind. In any other situation I would never have been able to get them to PvP however over a PVE objective being ****** with they turned into stone cold killers to the last man. Ok not quite they spent the next 10 mins fearful the entire server was after them and the next hour straight grinding their rep back so they could enter a town again :D. The point is you give somebody a reason to fight other than 'dank kills' and most of the time one charasmatic personality can change them from 'carebears' into 'gankers'

PS 2 of them commented it was the most fun they had had in game so far and came with me ot the 'black zone' (Null-Sec) later that week.

PSS Give me solid PVE objectives to fight over and I'll give you highsec(or any sec) Carebears willing to show some teeth

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Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
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#24 - 2017-04-11 14:23:21 UTC
I like the Concord Deputies idea. Better balanced.

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Gregorius Goldstein
Queens of the Drone Age
#25 - 2017-04-11 15:21:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregorius Goldstein
Saeger1737 wrote:
Gregorius Goldstein wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:

Let's make eve great again and remove Concord.


And with "EVE" you mean that one part that is HighSec? Roll

Eve is supposed to be a challenge and thrilling not safe and boring, just because you are in highsec doesn't mean you should be safe 100% of the time...

Should be more like 75% safe
Less Concord action will create new content for those who want to be deputies.


Sorry, my point was just that "HighSec" is not equal "EVE" but only one and not even the most important part of EVE. I don't care much for concord.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#26 - 2017-04-11 15:42:26 UTC
Gregorius Goldstein wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:
Gregorius Goldstein wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:

Let's make eve great again and remove Concord.


And with "EVE" you mean that one part that is HighSec? Roll

Eve is supposed to be a challenge and thrilling not safe and boring, just because you are in highsec doesn't mean you should be safe 100% of the time...

Should be more like 75% safe
Less Concord action will create new content for those who want to be deputies.


Sorry, my point was just that "HighSec" is not equal "EVE" but only one and not even the most important part of EVE. I don't care much for concord.

What would you consider the most important part of eve?

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#27 - 2017-04-12 01:57:06 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Gregorius Goldstein wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:
Gregorius Goldstein wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:

Let's make eve great again and remove Concord.


And with "EVE" you mean that one part that is HighSec? Roll

Eve is supposed to be a challenge and thrilling not safe and boring, just because you are in highsec doesn't mean you should be safe 100% of the time...

Should be more like 75% safe
Less Concord action will create new content for those who want to be deputies.


Sorry, my point was just that "HighSec" is not equal "EVE" but only one and not even the most important part of EVE. I don't care much for concord.

What would you consider the most important part of eve?

Nullsec

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Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#28 - 2017-04-12 02:59:31 UTC
Jita.


Who cares what happens on the peripheries of Eve.


He who controls trade controls Eve.
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They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

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Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#29 - 2017-04-12 03:02:56 UTC
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
Jita.


Who cares what happens on the peripheries of Eve.


He who controls trade controls Eve.

can you, for the love of Bob, write something relevant with the op Nitshe?

@Noragen, imo the most important space is the space where all the isk moves (aka highsec)

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#30 - 2017-04-12 03:07:25 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
Jita.


Who cares what happens on the peripheries of Eve.


He who controls trade controls Eve.

can you, for the love of Bob, write something relevant with the op Nitshe?

@Noragen, imo the most important space is the space where all the isk moves (aka highsec)

I believe no space is anymore or less important than another. The game couldn't survive without Highsec. The game would have no draw without the endgame content of low null and WH. Each of those 3 offer very different playstyles. You can't really say any type of space is more or less important.

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Shelby Dusette
Division 13
#31 - 2017-04-12 03:17:42 UTC
This could actually be a pretty cool thing.

You sign up for 'police' duty like you would FW, though it only commits the individual not the corp.

A criminal act occurs, you're in your ship doing whatever you usually do and suddenly up comes the CONCORD cyno alert. Maybe it's delayed by a few seconds, depending on the sec status of the system involved. You've only got seconds to respond to the cyno alert or it's gone.

You have no clue what's waiting or what crime has been committed, let alone where, and you're in your 2b T3. You decide to drop what you're doing and hit 'ACCEPT', taking the CONCORD cyno. Will twenty other 'police' also take it? Or maybe you're the only one? :o

You cyno in on grid, here's a fleet of catalysts ganking some freighter and it's up to you and the others who've taken the cyno to bring these guys consequence to their actions. Some escape, some fight back and you end up losing your T3. When you've caught your breath and it's over you hit the option to return to your original location and you and your pod get 'cyno'ed back home again.

Kick back in your citadel and begin consumption of donuts to ease the loss.

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Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#32 - 2017-04-12 03:18:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Vipsan Agrippa
Is it wrong to dislike tards?
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#33 - 2017-04-12 03:22:10 UTC
I don't like cancer.
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#34 - 2017-04-12 03:23:36 UTC
I don't like divorce laws that favour women....
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#35 - 2017-04-12 03:31:53 UTC
I do like bacon.
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#36 - 2017-04-12 03:37:26 UTC
code. cancer.
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#37 - 2017-04-12 03:38:34 UTC
Eve. Bacon.
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#38 - 2017-04-12 03:39:32 UTC
Concord fights cancer.
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#39 - 2017-04-12 03:42:40 UTC
Concord needs to be stronger and faster.
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)
Shelby Dusette
Division 13
#40 - 2017-04-12 04:19:17 UTC