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Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1 - 2017-04-10 10:28:07 UTC
What do you guys think?

Would the C&P players do a better job then CONCORD / Police? And if so, why don't we take over from them? Maybe CCP can add a new radar window, which shows how many -5 > -10 players are in which highsec system, so we know where to kill them.

Mmm... just realized, we might be those bad guys and have to kill ourselves. Roll

Work in Progress.....

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2017-04-10 10:31:59 UTC
I suggested this when code first formed.... No body wanted to give it a try, Concord is lame they don't even offer a fight it's all ecm burst your face off and nuke you instantly.... And eve is about content not right and wrong.

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2017-04-10 11:05:30 UTC
Well it is already happening to a certain degree.
Concorde is a necessity tough to keep suicide ganking a suicide.
A police like playstyle is something that could be an adding Feature if implemented with reason.

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Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#4 - 2017-04-10 14:01:25 UTC
Most already have gankers set to red (even me!!)
And there's always that little message saying there's a criminal spotted in the system

The closest entity we players have that looks like Concord is the Anti-Ganking movement...
And let me tell you, the only good they do is give us gankers tears and ****** "just one more nerf" forum posts hahaha

I'd rather let competent NPCs keep their jobs (although we'd have way more time to gank if AG were Concord hahahah)

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#5 - 2017-04-10 15:41:59 UTC
Think the only way to end suicide ganking is to get rid of Concord, this will generate more content and keep that old Moto that space ain't safe

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Sthenelos Tau
Caldera Mercenaries
#6 - 2017-04-10 15:42:12 UTC
The "bountyhunter`s" are dead.

Best bountyhunters are still Trasher-gate gankers killing pods, for almost nobody else there is a real reward, abit of loot sometimes and a tiny bounty paid out (if pilot had a bounty) and some stats at killboards.

I saw and still see here huge potencial, give the hunters, mercs, antigankers the real and honest reward, isk, other ways of bounty pay out`s, tags to change for isk, i dont know, something that make real worth to hunt pilots with bad sec status or killrights and to kill them, even when they are concord killmails also. This will / lets create content, for everybody.
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2017-04-10 15:49:57 UTC
I would also like to bring up that Concord is for police brutality by targeting and nuking all ships involved in a crime they are killing every ship's crew but not the pods.... Pods get less attention then a holeysheet monologue, Concord kills Content.... Makes eve boring.

Let's make eve great again and remove Concord.

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Gregorius Goldstein
Queens of the Drone Age
#8 - 2017-04-10 15:56:04 UTC
Saeger1737 wrote:


Let's make eve great again and remove Concord.


And with "EVE" you mean that one part that is HighSec? Roll
Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#9 - 2017-04-10 16:12:18 UTC
I think all of empire space minus maybe rookie and career systems should Be low sec. Now that would Be fun. Imagine JITA for one :0
Jacques d'Orleans
#10 - 2017-04-10 17:43:54 UTC
Ro Fenrios wrote:
I think all of empire space minus maybe rookie and career systems should Be low sec. Now that would Be fun. Imagine JITA for one :0


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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#11 - 2017-04-10 18:11:21 UTC
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Ro Fenrios wrote:
I think all of empire space minus maybe rookie and career systems should Be low sec. Now that would Be fun. Imagine JITA for one :0


There is no storage facility big enough, on this planet, to store all the salt and tears.

I've long been a proponent of making 0.5 - 0.7 systems accessible to capital ships* via gate travel** to pilots with high enough empire faction standings***.

Can you imagine the volume of tears shed by the first anti-tanked, carebear capital pilot to get suicide ganked in hisec? It would be glorious.



*Non-supers, so Carriers, Dreads, or Fauxs only.
**No cynos in hisec but can jump out to losec, no hisec production.
*** 1.0 standings for 0.5 systems, 3.0 standings for 0.6 systems, and 5.0 standings for 0.7 systems. No capitals in 0.8 and up.

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Areen Sassel
Dirac Angestun Gesept
#12 - 2017-04-10 18:31:30 UTC
Sthenelos Tau wrote:
I saw and still see here huge potencial, give the hunters, mercs, antigankers the real and honest reward, isk,


The trouble with any such scheme, like the old bounty system, is the potential to game it by shooting your own criminal alt.
Jacques d'Orleans
#13 - 2017-04-10 20:48:24 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Ro Fenrios wrote:
I think all of empire space minus maybe rookie and career systems should Be low sec. Now that would Be fun. Imagine JITA for one :0


There is no storage facility big enough, on this planet, to store all the salt and tears.

I've long been a proponent of making 0.5 - 0.7 systems accessible to capital ships* via gate travel** to pilots with high enough empire faction standings***.

Can you imagine the volume of tears shed by the first anti-tanked, carebear capital pilot to get suicide ganked in hisec? It would be glorious.



*Non-supers, so Carriers, Dreads, or Fauxs only.
**No cynos in hisec but can jump out to losec, no hisec production.
*** 1.0 standings for 0.5 systems, 3.0 standings for 0.6 systems, and 5.0 standings for 0.7 systems. No capitals in 0.8 and up.



OMG, that would be a flood of tears without any historical equivalent in the whole history of mankind.

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#14 - 2017-04-10 21:51:03 UTC
Gregorius Goldstein wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:


Let's make eve great again and remove Concord.


And with "EVE" you mean that one part that is HighSec? Roll

Eve is supposed to be a challenge and thrilling not safe and boring, just because you are in highsec doesn't mean you should be safe 100% of the time...

Should be more like 75% safe
Less Concord action will create new content for those who want to be deputies.

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the bodizafa
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2017-04-10 22:44:11 UTC
Concord is as tough as they are to prevent well organized groups from taking over whole systems and nuking anything coming in the gate. Cant have that isk flow shut down now can we.
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#16 - 2017-04-10 23:42:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Vipsan Agrippa
Saeger1737 wrote:
I suggested this when code first formed.... No body wanted to give it a try, Concord is lame they don't even offer a fight it's all ecm burst your face off and nuke you instantly.... And eve is about content not right and wrong.



There is right and wrong in every aspect of your life Atari, you will be judged.


As the ancient Hermetic scholars would say - As above so below.


You think Eve is just a game, it's an insight into your soul.
Best you navigate through the systems with a moral compass in future...
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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#17 - 2017-04-11 04:03:33 UTC
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:
I suggested this when code first formed.... No body wanted to give it a try, Concord is lame they don't even offer a fight it's all ecm burst your face off and nuke you instantly.... And eve is about content not right and wrong.



There is right and wrong in every aspect of your life Atari, you will be judged.


As the ancient Hermetic scholars would say - As above so below.


You think Eve is just a game, it's an insight into your soul.
Best you navigate through the systems with a moral compass in future...

Deep down inside I am a murderious zealot who sacrifices bodies to the deity of my choosing (usually a benevolent god named Bob but on occasions I have killed in the name of others).

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#18 - 2017-04-11 04:05:45 UTC
@Tora
Concord is an esential in this game. We would never police effectively enough to keep eve's ecconomy running. That said Fac Po are kinda ****** and could be replaced by players in areas but I think there needs to be more too it than simply switching them off and thats the end of the mechanic. If you wanted players to police a system they would need to feel like it was theirs somehow and be ready to defend it

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#19 - 2017-04-11 10:32:39 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
@Tora
Concord is an esential in this game. We would never police effectively enough to keep eve's ecconomy running. That said Fac Po are kinda ****** and could be replaced by players in areas but I think there needs to be more too it than simply switching them off and thats the end of the mechanic. If you wanted players to police a system they would need to feel like it was theirs somehow and be ready to defend it

Make them deputies of Concord and don't make Concord an instant punishment, there should be a fight atleast, all criminals should become flashy as they due now but instant death defeats the content, Concord should drop a warp bubble and everyone could Duke it out till the deputies or the criminals are dead...

Much like in Real Life.

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Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#20 - 2017-04-11 12:01:03 UTC
Saeger1737 wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
@Tora
Concord is an esential in this game. We would never police effectively enough to keep eve's ecconomy running. That said Fac Po are kinda ****** and could be replaced by players in areas but I think there needs to be more too it than simply switching them off and thats the end of the mechanic. If you wanted players to police a system they would need to feel like it was theirs somehow and be ready to defend it

Make them deputies of Concord and don't make Concord an instant punishment, there should be a fight atleast, all criminals should become flashy as they due now but instant death defeats the content, Concord should drop a warp bubble and everyone could Duke it out till the deputies or the criminals are dead...

Much like in Real Life.

This would be the death of the Anti-Ganking movement hahahah
They can't shoot anything that's not already tackled, neuted, ecm'ed or anything else by Concord (hence why we call the Concord whorers)

I like the idea tho

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