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The Eyrie of Heaven Presents: A Siren's Song
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Anshar Incorporated
#21 - 2017-04-05 05:37:14 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
And this evil is... individualism. It is working for yourself, pursuing your own goals, hedonism. It is nurturing yourself and living just for yourself instead of others and your society.

Now look here miss Kim Diana, hedonism is a very righteous goal and I've never been involved in much of it that's not been good for at least three or more people.

Usually it's good for a lot more!

The ideal is to engage in hedonism that pulls the collective up together. Indulgence can be infinitely shared and better all.

Honestly, I think you just need a Happy Chip™

...

...or a good Amarrian orgy?

But here is the blood still and all the perfumes of Aridia will not sweeten this little rose ♥
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#22 - 2017-04-05 06:05:13 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

But also I believe there is an Absolute Evil - one that remains evil disregarding how or who will look it. And this evil is... individualism. It is working for yourself, pursuing your own goals, hedonism. It is nurturing yourself and living just for yourself instead of others and your society.

To a certain degree i actually have to agree with this. Complete and utter individualism is actually not good. There has to be some commom goals or agreements for anything to work for any group. If individualism works to balance out extremes however, is is truely a good thing that can allow a weak group to do great things.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#23 - 2017-04-05 07:11:47 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
There are many things that can be considered evil by one people and good by another. I think it comes down to the end to what people like and what they don't.

But also I believe there is an Absolute Evil - one that remains evil disregarding how or who will look it. And this evil is... individualism. It is working for yourself, pursuing your own goals, hedonism. It is nurturing yourself and living just for yourself instead of others and your society.

You do realize that your over indulgence in your honor and your outspoken hatred of the Gallente are both an expression of individualism, right?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#24 - 2017-04-05 10:05:18 UTC
This almost makes Nauplius appear charming. Although there is still alot he has to make up for before I will let him tickle my toes.

❤️️💛💚💙💜
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#25 - 2017-04-05 13:34:26 UTC
Mebrithiel Ju'wien wrote:
Evil is relative and all humans are fallible. Only when carnal power and unification of hearts and minds is complete under Master, will humanity find fulfillment and completion...

...

...Oh...

Well that was weird!


This a common problem, pilot? You should get this looked at.
Maria Daphiti
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#26 - 2017-04-05 15:10:01 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Mebrithiel Ju'wien wrote:
Evil is relative and all humans are fallible. Only when carnal power and unification of hearts and minds is complete under Master, will humanity find fulfillment and completion...

...

...Oh...

Well that was weird!


This a common problem, pilot? You should get this looked at.


Absolutely! Even Nauplius knows it's bad to listen to voices in your head! (Umm.. right?)
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#27 - 2017-04-05 16:19:15 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Mebrithiel Ju'wien wrote:
Evil is relative and all humans are fallible. Only when carnal power and unification of hearts and minds is complete under Master, will humanity find fulfillment and completion...

...

...Oh...

Well that was weird!


This a common problem, pilot? You should get this looked at.


Correction Nauplius, Carnal Power should be explored further.

Only by embracing of the chaos of such a storm you can then understand how to master it.

Otherwise you are left being Mastered by it.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#28 - 2017-04-05 16:28:05 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Mebrithiel Ju'wien wrote:
Evil is relative and all humans are fallible. Only when carnal power and unification of hearts and minds is complete under Master, will humanity find fulfillment and completion...

...

...Oh...

Well that was weird!


This a common problem, pilot? You should get this looked at.


Correction Nauplius, Carnal Power should be explored further.

Only by embracing of the chaos of such a storm you can then understand how to master it.

Otherwise you are left being Mastered by it.


Uh ... I think he's referring to the odd change of voice by Ms. Ju'wien, Ms. Leshrac. In context, it sounds like that meant "power over people's bodies" more than "sexual power." If so, that was Nation talk-- and that's really worrisome when it comes from someone who didn't expect to be saying it, for reasons I hope are self-explanatory.
Loai Qerl
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#29 - 2017-04-05 16:36:24 UTC
By all this Carnal Power and suchlike, we are talking about...sex? Yes? Having a lovely time doing that and so on? I am having a very difficult time imagining it being SO a thing that one needs so many capital letters.

I mean yesyes, toes and so on, but. Really.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#30 - 2017-04-05 17:21:14 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:


Uh ... I think he's referring to the odd change of voice by Ms. Ju'wien, Ms. Leshrac. In context, it sounds like that meant "power over people's bodies" more than "sexual power." If so, that was Nation talk-- and that's really worrisome when it comes from someone who didn't expect to be saying it, for reasons I hope are self-explanatory.


Hence my correction. Carnal Power and sexuality very much deals with the body. The issue whether or not you succumb to body's wants and desires (hunger, procreation for example) and let it rule you. Addiction in any form is good example of letting such instincts "Master" you.

Thus it becomes important in knowing what the body wants and giving it what it needs.

And sometimes, an exception can be made. And that is where the real explorations begin.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Jev North
Doomheim
#31 - 2017-04-05 17:36:48 UTC
Mebrithiel Ju'wien wrote:
Well that was weird!

You okay, Mebs? Sure you're in the right place? TS-F offices are a couple of doors down the hall.

;)

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Lasairiona Raske
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#32 - 2017-04-05 18:10:32 UTC
All this fuss for a little performance?

Are you a devil or an angel

Sent here from heaven or from hell?

Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles

Can't find my way out of your spell
Jev North
Doomheim
#33 - 2017-04-05 18:38:58 UTC
It's not just any performance; it's one of yours.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Loai Qerl
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#34 - 2017-04-05 18:42:41 UTC
Mind the thread of the Vherokior; it tangles up. Something-something Faith.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#35 - 2017-04-05 18:46:14 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:

You do realize that your over indulgence in your honor and your outspoken hatred of the Gallente are both an expression of individualism, right?

No.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#36 - 2017-04-05 19:06:22 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:

You do realize that your over indulgence in your honor and your outspoken hatred of the Gallente are both an expression of individualism, right?

No.

Well, now you do.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Vincent Pryce
Damnation Angels
Watch This
#37 - 2017-04-05 19:15:13 UTC
Well, this thread is going places.

Hope to see you all at The Eyrie on the 8th.

"From your Curse we made Heaven for ourselves."

Domination Seraphim

Cartel approved, Heaven blessed
Lasairiona Raske
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#38 - 2017-04-05 19:40:29 UTC
Jev North wrote:
It's not just any performance; it's one of yours.


Well, I shall perform accordingly. Blink

Are you a devil or an angel

Sent here from heaven or from hell?

Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles

Can't find my way out of your spell
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#39 - 2017-04-05 21:48:07 UTC
Lasairiona Raske wrote:
Jev North wrote:
It's not just any performance; it's one of yours.


Well, I shall perform accordingly. Blink


I'm amazed nobody has mentioned the best part about the sight of the Vherokior walking away from you. I'm always the last to leave staff meetings.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Jev North
Doomheim
#40 - 2017-04-05 21:54:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Jev North
Hm.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
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