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I think the whole damage calculus of this game needs to be re-thought.

I agree the biggest issue is how poorly cruiser class missiles are against cruiser sized ships. That should be their strong point regardless of the propulsion modules added to the targets.

As well, I think the ranges for all weapons and targeting systems should be increased something like 5 to 10 times.
A frigate shouldn't be able to cross a cruiser's engagement range in less than 30 seconds in any circumstance.

So this was NOT April's Fools after all? Well, that's even less funny.

Then this needs to be fixed. If you just nerf RLML then congratulations, you have a Caracal that can't work effectively with RLML, can't fit anything else, and can't apply useful damage even if it could fit HML/HAM. IOW, you might as well delete the Caracal from the game.

To fix RLML, you need to fix the other medium missiles and make RLML a real trade off to fit. Having a dedicated anti-support missile syytem isn't the end of the world but it has to be an effective limitation. Right now, the ships that use them pretty much work better against EVERYTHING with RLML instead of HMs and HAMs.

Let's take a trip back in time.

I started playing in 2012, when the Drake was still an amazing ship. I trained into missiles based on feedback everyone gave me, that it was good for PVE and PVP. Pretty soon afterwards:

Winter 2012

• Heavy Missile Damage reduced by 10% (rounded to closest digit)
• Heavy Missile Explosion Radius increased by 12%

Summer 2015

• Heavy Missile Damage increased by 5%

So now we're looking at increasing HML damage again, by 5.6%. That puts damage levels basically back to the same as they were in 2012, possibly increased by a whole 0.6%. But with the previous nerfs to damage applications, it's almost pointless.

The Missile Explosion Radius has never been adjusted to my knowledge. We have Missile Guidance Computers/Enhancers now, which we didn't back then, but Missile Disruption was also introduced which evens this out the same as every other weapon system.

HML damage application has been suffering since the nerf in 2012, hence why it's such an underperforming weapon system.

CCP Fozzie: Please consider increasing the damage application, and undoing some of the Explosion Radius nerf from 2012.

Fozzie, while your intentions are good, you may want to consider some of the ideas put forward.

1. RLML are the defining choice because HML and HAM launchers are extremely poor at applying damage below battlecruiser sized targets. Improve application for these, and then it becomes a question of players balancing benefits against RLML rather than "always RLML"

2. Increasing reload time simply makes RLML more unpleasant to use, where reducing both clip size and REDUCING reload time by 5 seconds would make them far more useable WHILST making them less oppressive.

3. Decreasing range makes RLML less effective against fast moving targets, the real purpose of the weapon system, it simply means fly another ship if you want to fight frigates and interceptors.

I hope you will take these ideas and comments in board, you have far more experience and knowledge of future developments than most of us, but we do have in game experience, and from that perspective this solution is not addressing our issues.

While you're at it, could you take a look at precision light missiles? In my opinion they lack velocity already, and now that they lose bonuses from many hulls, it puts them into an even weaker place.

No missile damage is still lower than it was back then (albeit not by much) 0.9*1.05*1.056=0.99792 so still ~0.2% lower dps

I agree with this assessment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_oiSQehU_M

im only good for memes anyway, ill just leave this here