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[MAY] Blood Raider Capitals

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Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#61 - 2017-03-27 20:08:18 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Mr Rive wrote:
From what I can tell his argument is thusly:

Why bother using a faction titan, when that faction titan can only fit the modules of one race of bonuses in its hull?

Effectively, you are saying 'here are the bonuses' but then negating that because the titan can only use one type of bonus without docking up to refit.

In essense, the extra DD bonuses are pointless.

Of course, it's still an advantage because the enemy won't know which DD you have fit until you fire it.

That being said, it does seem a bit pointless to have a ship which can only use one bonus at a time without docking. For the price, you might as well buy two titans with the same racial DD's, as you could just do the same effective thing with them.


If you carry just that, it fit int he hangar. Of course, you are not carrying just that since there are other things you carry around even in Titans without that options. The point will be to choose if you bring the extra DD, how many different ones of them and what do you sacrifice to bring them. More options will bring your harder choices to make because the extras actually cost you some of the "basics".


This is the stupidest garbage I have ever read.
bob910
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#62 - 2017-03-27 20:12:48 UTC
Are the corpses fuel for the dd and jumpdrive?
Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#63 - 2017-03-27 20:13:20 UTC
bob910 wrote:
Are the corpses fuel for the dd and jumpdrive?


If they are, they better add that corpse tractor beam. Capital ships are way too slow to properly loot a battlefield.

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Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#64 - 2017-03-27 20:23:08 UTC
Besides, just think -- if you can't carry as much in your fleet hangar, the total ISK value of your killmail will be lower. Perhaps if you optimize this well enough, you won't have to drop corp or unplug implants when you get caught doing something dumb.

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Gabriel Karade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#65 - 2017-03-27 20:24:32 UTC
'Corpse bay' seems pretty silly to be honest, serves no actual purpose, and from a fluff perspective who the hell builds a warship with a totally pointless space?

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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#66 - 2017-03-27 20:53:11 UTC
Gabriel Karade wrote:
'Corpse bay' seems pretty silly to be honest, serves no actual purpose, and from a fluff perspective who the hell builds a warship with a totally pointless space?


Maybe a cult called the Blood Raiders ;-).

https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/the-blood-raiders/

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#67 - 2017-03-27 21:37:42 UTC
I can't really speak for the other caps, but my initial impression is that I'm not sure the dagon will provide enough of a practical improvement over the apostle to warrant actually ever using it. Maybe I'm just not seeing the intended use, but I really don't think the nos power is going to be able to hold it up the same way the bonuses on the other fax can. I suppose I'll have to wait until they're out on the test server to find out for sure.
Insidious
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2017-03-27 22:25:17 UTC
thats fantastic

now nerf capitals
Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#69 - 2017-03-27 22:39:38 UTC
Querns wrote:
Besides, just think -- if you can't carry as much in your fleet hangar, the total ISK value of your killmail will be lower. Perhaps if you optimize this well enough, you won't have to drop corp or unplug implants when you get caught doing something dumb.



That was almost as funny as imagining you with a helmet and mouth guard typing this to make a funny. Congratulations you get a Pap Link.
Minty Aroma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#70 - 2017-03-27 23:00:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Chanisa Nemes
Tara Read wrote:
Autistic Screeching


By your logic, there is no need for cargohold limitations at all - the same principle can be applied to any ship that can be used effectively in other configurations - ie: most of the ships in EVE. Some ships like the Machariel have a decent amount of space to refit for most encounters, others such as Carriers/Supers cannot carry enough for any situation, so you must plan and compromise when figuring fighter loadout, EWAR burst and tank modules; same goes for the Molek.

Forward planning is a part of what makes a skillful player - instead of getting hysterical over the limitations, use your head to think a way around them to push the effectiveness of the ship to its limit.
Mr Rive
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#71 - 2017-03-27 23:38:15 UTC
Can everyone please stop yelling at each other so we can all collectively yell about how poorly the dogon tanks??

We can all agree on that :3
cutthroat kane
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#72 - 2017-03-27 23:54:48 UTC
The Avatar is already one of the more common titans. The Molok is just a better version of the Avatar; seems a little OP.
Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
#73 - 2017-03-28 01:06:00 UTC
I know this is technical stuff but, will this ships have there own designed? Or just name and color change from other caps and fax?

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Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#74 - 2017-03-28 01:25:30 UTC
With the addition of the Corpse Bay as being a "thing," will we also see this change on the other blood raider ships?
ight8
BLACK SQUADRON.
Get Off My Lawn
#75 - 2017-03-28 01:38:13 UTC
Every ship needs a specialized Corpse bay. This needs to be a thing.
Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#76 - 2017-03-28 02:20:50 UTC
Astrid Farnsworth wrote:
I know this is technical stuff but, will this ships have there own designed? Or just name and color change from other caps and fax?


The models themselves will remain the same as their non faction counterparts.
light heaven
JUST SET TIMES
#77 - 2017-03-28 02:21:50 UTC
I feel little disappoint about Dagon. It will feel better with 7.5% cap armor remote repair instead of 5%. And a bonus for denfend instead of an extra low slot. This will make Dagon deserve to deploy in battlefield.
FOl2TY8
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2017-03-28 02:24:06 UTC
cutthroat kane wrote:
The Avatar is already one of the more common titans. The Molok is just a better version of the Avatar; seems a little OP.


I agree, maybe a cargohold nerf?
Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#79 - 2017-03-28 02:41:45 UTC
The poor Molok, cut down in its prime. No longer to dream of being a clown car, host to an innumerable number of clowns, it must relegate itself to a lesser fate. An ignoble fate. We weep bitter tears as we mourn its passing.

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Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#80 - 2017-03-28 02:51:28 UTC
I mean, you could use the corpse bay, but man, there's nothing that kills the mood faster than dead clowns. Yuck.

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