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Agent 5B
Venom and Bullet Corporation
#1 - 2017-03-23 06:51:35 UTC
These burner missions with the one frigate in a site on it's own.

Do they correspond to any of the normal game mechanics at all ?

I mean it says it is meant to be this ship or that ship but the thing must have about 8 mid slots
Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-03-23 08:09:58 UTC
Shocked

.....emh... what?
sorry can't understand you Shocked
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#3 - 2017-03-23 08:34:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2017-03-23 08:38:08 UTC
oh now makes more sense Roll
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2017-03-23 11:12:38 UTC
Also this thread should be posted in the sub-forum 'Missions & Complexes'.

Seems to me people have been posting threads in the wrong sub-forum lately.

Ugh




DMC

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Vigirr
#6 - 2017-03-23 11:35:08 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Also this thread should be posted in the sub-forum 'Missions & Complexes'.

Seems to me people have been posting threads in the wrong sub-forum lately.

Ugh




DMC


Having to think before doing and not seeing yourself as the centre of the universe, where you actually should stick to certain rules and (self imposed) restrictions is such an outdated concept.
Keno Skir
#7 - 2017-03-23 11:55:56 UTC
Vigirr wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Also this thread should be posted in the sub-forum 'Missions & Complexes'.

Seems to me people have been posting threads in the wrong sub-forum lately.

Ugh




DMC


Having to think before doing and not seeing yourself as the centre of the universe, where you actually should stick to certain rules and (self imposed) restrictions is such an outdated concept.


Come one guys Big smile A video game forum is quite simply not this serious a business.

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Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#8 - 2017-03-23 12:08:04 UTC
Vigirr, I challenge you to prove I am not the centre of the universe. I literally am, the universe is a bubble centred around me with edges 47 billion light years away.

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Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2017-03-23 12:12:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Soel Reit
Mr Mieyli wrote:
Vigirr, I challenge you to prove I am not the centre of the universe. I literally am, the universe is a bubble centred around me with edges 47 billion light years away.


so small?? you haven't seen mine of universe... yet Roll



Keno Skir wrote:
Vigirr wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Also this thread should be posted in the sub-forum 'Missions & Complexes'.

Seems to me people have been posting threads in the wrong sub-forum lately.

Ugh




DMC


Having to think before doing and not seeing yourself as the centre of the universe, where you actually should stick to certain rules and (self imposed) restrictions is such an outdated concept.


Come one guys Big smile A video game forum is quite simply not this serious a business.


not serious business...???
EvE is super serious business Cool
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#10 - 2017-03-23 12:23:55 UTC
Agent 5B wrote:
These burner missions with the one frigate in a site on it's own.

Do they correspond to any of the normal game mechanics at all ?

I mean it says it is meant to be this ship or that ship but the thing must have about 8 mid slots


It's said that their status is mimicking characters with all V skills and full officer/deadspace/factional modules, probably also some 6% implants.
Besides, they have instant cap recharge and immune to TD/damp like most npcs do.
Salvos Rhoska
#11 - 2017-03-23 12:27:16 UTC
Vigirr wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Also this thread should be posted in the sub-forum 'Missions & Complexes'.

Seems to me people have been posting threads in the wrong sub-forum lately.

Ugh




DMC


Having to think before doing and not seeing yourself as the centre of the universe, where you actually should stick to certain rules and (self imposed) restrictions is such an outdated concept.


Also known as "Reddit Syndrome".

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Vigirr
#12 - 2017-03-23 12:36:33 UTC
Mr Mieyli wrote:
Vigirr, I challenge you to prove I am not the centre of the universe. I literally am, the universe is a bubble centred around me with edges 47 billion light years away.


That would mean you're standing on my spot, which you don''t. QED
Agent 5B
Venom and Bullet Corporation
#13 - 2017-03-23 14:01:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Agent 5B
Nana Skalski wrote:
These are called burner NPC's, search in google yields this result. And this result.


That is incorrect the daredevil goes over 2k and is dual prop

I suspect that all of them are
Buggs LeRoach
DHCOx
#14 - 2017-03-23 14:49:02 UTC
Agent 5B wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
These are called burner NPC's, search in google yields this result. And this result.


That is incorrect the daredevil goes over 2k and is dual prop

I suspect that all of them are


wipe the tears from your eyes , read the replies and do a bit of research , and you can kill them without problems , like hundreds of other players do , every day ...
Agent 5B
Venom and Bullet Corporation
#15 - 2017-03-23 14:59:49 UTC
Buggs LeRoach wrote:


wipe the tears from your eyes , read the replies and do a bit of research , and you can kill them without problems , like hundreds of other players do , every day ...


I'm glad you know them all personally and have watched hundreds of players do those every day and are not just making things up like some useless mission report posted on the internet.
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2017-03-23 15:17:31 UTC
yes they are powerful, they are designed to be. people wanted "challenging and interesting pve content" and this is one of the answers to that (might not be the best answer but its still better than rescuing the damsel for the 1000th time)

the rewards are also acceptable for the challenge, with many of them paying out about as well as HS incursions for the time spent. even better than incursions in fact (if there was some way to chain them and ONLY run burners)

you also don't NEED to take the burner missions, unless something changed there is no penalty for declining one unlike a regular mission.
Cade Windstalker
#17 - 2017-03-23 15:20:52 UTC
If you actually want help or advice it's probably inadvisable to start throwing around pointless insults...

Those ships don't have 8 mids, and they're not dual prop fit, they just have stats roughly equivalent to an overheating Pirate Frig with Faction/Deadspace fittings and implants. They're designed to be hard to kill and be similar in challenge to a player, the advantage is you know what they're going to use based on the mission so you can fit to hard-counter them.
Agent 5B
Venom and Bullet Corporation
#18 - 2017-03-23 15:28:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Agent 5B
Cade Windstalker wrote:
If you actually want help or advice it's probably inadvisable to start throwing around pointless insults...

Those ships don't have 8 mids, and they're not dual prop fit, they just have stats roughly equivalent to an overheating Pirate Frig with Faction/Deadspace fittings and implants. They're designed to be hard to kill and be similar in challenge to a player, the advantage is you know what they're going to use based on the mission so you can fit to hard-counter them.


Overheated AB doesn't go 2.8 k from 1.2

I didn't ask for help , I asked if people think that the NPC operate within the limitations of the ship they are meant to be.

Seeing as hundreds of people do them every day there should be plenty of people who know the answer.
Salvos Rhoska
#19 - 2017-03-23 15:42:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Agent 5B wrote:
I asked if people think that the NPC operate within the limitations of the ship they are meant to be.

They do not.

NPC stats do not match those of player ships, of SP/implants of the capsuleer or fit of the ship.
They are entirely set by CCP, without much regard to the ship, pilot or fit of the NPC.
This is inpart also evidenced by the largely unrelated loot that drops from them when destroyed.

NPCs have only stats, they dont have player equal ships, implants/SP or fits.
Though an NPC ship looks like a Cynabal, it is not a Cynabal.

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Agent 5B
Venom and Bullet Corporation
#20 - 2017-03-23 16:13:03 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Agent 5B wrote:
I asked if people think that the NPC operate within the limitations of the ship they are meant to be.

They do not.

NPC stats do not match those of player ships, of SP/implants of the capsuleer or fit of the ship.


True but they don't call them after the name of the ship they call them Angel Superbanger or Centus God blobber or some other strange name but the anomics are named after a specific ship type and the agent says so in the mission brief. The assault frigates in anomic team do have the resists and speed relating to that of the assault frig they are meant to be. So some vague attempt at following the theme must have been made for those.
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