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Torpedoes 5 a waste?

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Janisarus Mimoza
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-12-28 21:09:49 UTC
I recently completed Torps 5 with an intent to specialize to lvl4. However, i made the silly mistake of not researching well enough what Torps do for me; and as a result, i realize now that Crusie would be better overall. That is, for PVE and mission running with the Raven, Cruises are better as their range is much better than Torps.

I have trained Cov Ops becaus i wanted to have a strong PVP stealth bomber outfit, and i realize Torps would be great for that, as well as with the Golem.

So now, i don't know wither it was worth it or not. Outside of the two aformentioned places to use Torps, is there somewhere else i can made those 2 1/2 weeks training worth it?

Thank you for your attention and sugguestions in advance.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2011-12-28 21:28:29 UTC
Janisarus Mimoza wrote:
So now, i don't know wither it was worth it or not. Outside of the two aformentioned places to use Torps, is there somewhere else i can made those 2 1/2 weeks training worth it?


It represents one third of the weapon skills needed for a gank phoon....
Ayzn Betokhn
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2011-12-28 22:42:27 UTC
Another niche where the skill might be useful is faction warfare. Stealth bombers are popular for the faction warfare missions.
Zack Evans
Pyromaniacs Anonymous
#4 - 2011-12-29 00:03:27 UTC
Definitely not a waste, you never know. Down the road I gaurentee you would have said to yourself "****, I wish I had trained torps to 5" But hey, now you know. Good luck mate.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2011-12-29 03:36:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Golem.

I have torp spec 4. I never bothered with T2 cruise.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-12-29 08:31:38 UTC
T2 torps are awesome.
T2 cruise is the ULTIMATE sign of a massive carebear since they have no PVP application at all.

even for pve, torps are way better.

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Caretaking Sunofabitcch Quigglywobbl
Fulmar's Anti-Caldari Club
#7 - 2011-12-29 15:09:01 UTC
Cruise missile 5 is a 1 way ticket to quitting eve.

If you trained torps however you'll be able to fly the very fun Golem, have 1/3 of a typhoon and have a decent stealth bomber.
Frothgar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2011-12-29 22:25:35 UTC
I've heard more than a few people say that Javelan Torp Golems are really good for PvE. Never flown a marauder myself,

Might be worth looking into.
Annaborn
Omnipotence Industries
#9 - 2012-01-01 10:19:15 UTC
Well I trained Torps to 5 with the intent of squeezing the best out of my Golem. What I found was that 90% of the time, faction torps do the job just fine. Until they released the T2 tractors you wanted to kill stuff within 40km anyways to put the marauders tractor bonus into effect which roughly works out to standard torp range on them anyways. If you want to max out a Golem I'd say go for it, but I've gotten more use out of the training on my Stealth Bomber than anything I think.
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Grimm Hounds
SONS of BANE
#10 - 2012-01-02 23:34:31 UTC
Janisarus Mimoza wrote:
I recently completed Torps 5 with an intent to specialize to lvl4. However, i made the silly mistake of not researching well enough what Torps do for me; and as a result, i realize now that Crusie would be better overall. That is, for PVE and mission running with the Raven, Cruises are better as their range is much better than Torps.

I have trained Cov Ops becaus i wanted to have a strong PVP stealth bomber outfit, and i realize Torps would be great for that, as well as with the Golem.

So now, i don't know wither it was worth it or not. Outside of the two aformentioned places to use Torps, is there somewhere else i can made those 2 1/2 weeks training worth it?

Thank you for your attention and sugguestions in advance.



torps five is glorious. you can set up to hit from 110km, or you can just deliver your torps faster. it's a beautiful thing.
Idicious Lightbane
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-01-04 20:35:12 UTC
Annaborn wrote:
Well I trained Torps to 5 with the intent of squeezing the best out of my Golem. What I found was that 90% of the time, faction torps do the job just fine. Until they released the T2 tractors you wanted to kill stuff within 40km anyways to put the marauders tractor bonus into effect which roughly works out to standard torp range on them anyways. If you want to max out a Golem I'd say go for it, but I've gotten more use out of the training on my Stealth Bomber than anything I think.


The difference in damage output between torps 4 and torps 5 with spec 4 and t2 launchers is a 13% raw damage increase, nothing to be laughed at. The damage bonus from specs is from using the T2 launchers, not the T2 ammo.
Idicious Lightbane
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-01-04 20:35:23 UTC
Annaborn wrote:
Well I trained Torps to 5 with the intent of squeezing the best out of my Golem. What I found was that 90% of the time, faction torps do the job just fine. Until they released the T2 tractors you wanted to kill stuff within 40km anyways to put the marauders tractor bonus into effect which roughly works out to standard torp range on them anyways. If you want to max out a Golem I'd say go for it, but I've gotten more use out of the training on my Stealth Bomber than anything I think.


The difference in damage output between torps 4 and torps 5 with spec 4 and t2 launchers is a 13% raw damage increase, nothing to be laughed at. The damage bonus from specs is from using the T2 launchers, not the T2 ammo.
Pyrosomniac
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-01-04 23:16:20 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
T2 torps are awesome.
T2 cruise is the ULTIMATE sign of a massive carebear since they have no PVP application at all.

even for pve, torps are way better.


Quote:
Cruise missile 5 is a 1 way ticket to quitting eve.

If you trained torps however you'll be able to fly the very fun Golem, have 1/3 of a typhoon and have a decent stealth bomber.


Mind if I ask why? Training missiles myself at the minute, hoping to become fairly competent in their use for all classes of ships and sizes. Otherwise I'm fairly ignorant as to what's useful and what's not.

As I see it it's the difference between a long range missile that launches slower, or a short range one that launches faster but does slightly lower dps per missile.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-01-05 11:43:14 UTC
Cruise missiles have terrible DPS and are slow.
There is no use for them in PVP at all.

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Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-01-06 01:49:02 UTC
Torps = Golem, Stealth Bombers, PVP Raven/Phoon

Cruise = PVE Raven and nothing else.
Pyrosomniac
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-01-06 02:23:24 UTC
Squatdog wrote:
Torps = Golem, Stealth Bombers, PVP Raven/Phoon

Cruise = PVE Raven and nothing else.


Quote:
Cruise missiles have terrible DPS and are slow.
There is no use for them in PVP at all.


Noted. Training it to level 4 at the most.
Ultim8Evil
Exit-Strategy
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#17 - 2012-01-06 12:02:33 UTC
Slightly off topic, but the "correct" way to fit Bombers is generally reguarded to be with Meta4 launchers as they are much easier on CPU. So, technically, you don't *need* Torps 5 or Torp Spec trained at all to fly a good bomber, as you're not using T2 launchers or torps.

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Draven MCcloud
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-01-08 05:21:36 UTC
So its not worth training cruise to lvl 5 even for citadel Cruise? Or is it better to train for citadel torps?Currently my main can fly a dread and just wondering which is better?
I likegirls
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#19 - 2012-01-08 06:15:38 UTC
Draven MCcloud wrote:
So its not worth training cruise to lvl 5 even for citadel Cruise? Or is it better to train for citadel torps?Currently my main can fly a dread and just wondering which is better?


Best to train for a Revelation or Moros for dreads.
If for some reason you want a Phoenix, then citadel torps are the way to go.
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-01-09 15:29:57 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
T2 torps are awesome.
T2 cruise is the ULTIMATE sign of a massive carebear since they have no PVP application at all.

even for pve, torps are way better.


Wait a minute!

I recall an early video where a gang of ships pulled into a POS running from another fleet and ... "wait a sec, only cruise batteries?!?!? God hates us..." - so someone is using cruise for PvP - you don't fit batteries for a POS to shoot at NPC's! errr...

*snicker*
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