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Directed Evolution Corp 75
Jimi Crackcorn Directed Evolution Corp Likes received: 75	#1 - 2011-12-28 19:27:54 UTC 2 So pretty much everyone agrees that the UI sucks, and I must say. I agree, but I haven't really seen any suggestions on a way to make it better. So what would you change about it, or like to see added/removed to/from it?

Global Song Setup 215
Luba Cibre Global Song Setup Likes received: 215	#2 - 2011-12-28 19:30:51 UTC 2 I like the ui. First mmo interface i don't have to custom mod.... "Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise."

Shifting Suns Industries DammFam 100
Derus Grobb Shifting Suns Industries DammFam Likes received: 100	#3 - 2011-12-28 19:41:43 UTC 2 the HUD looks really old-fashioned

Cruor Angelicus 4,316
Xercodo Cruor Angelicus Likes received: 4,316	#4 - 2011-12-28 19:41:52 UTC 2 Customizable Context menus Instead of a long list i'd rather right click an item in my hanger and have it have categories like "Market" "Cargo" with all of the specific things inside those....and show info at the bottom >.> The Drake is a Lie

Jimi Crackcorn

Directed Evolution Corp

Likes received: 75

#5 - 2011-12-28 19:43:57 UTC | Edited by: Jimi Crackcorn

Luba Cibre wrote:

I like the ui. First mmo interface i don't have to custom mod....

Well I'll agree that it's not the worst interface ever but it could use some fixing, especially the overview.

Some things I'd like to see changed without completely redoing the UI:

Make the row of icons auto hidable, like the windows taskbar, to where they are completely hidden unless you place your cursor to the left of the screen.

Make the overview more customizable(Seperate columns, sorting and such for each overview tab)

Make ctrl tab customizable. This would be actually useful if I didn't have to tab through chat windows, overview, drones and everything else just to get to the market. Being able to remove those from the ctrl tab would make it actually useful. Currently switching from my character sheet to the market via ctrl tabbing takes longer than just clicking, which defeats the purpose.

Just more customization overall. To be honest though, I think a complete UI redo would be best, and it seems most others do as well. No ones giving CCP any direction on where to take it from what I've seen, however. So post away people

Syphon Lodian

Fabled Enterprises

Likes received: 99

#6 - 2011-12-28 19:44:40 UTC | Edited by: Syphon Lodian

I like the UI.

It's daunting, and needlessly complex in some areas.. of course, but you get used to it and you come to embrace it. It's more or less as efficient as it needs to be.

The problem, is introducing new features to the UI. Where do you put it... ? How do you introduce Walking In Stations to the current UI? Does it have it's own separate UI, does it change the current UI while you're in station... what?

So yea, that is the biggest weakness, it is full, it's done. I wouldn't want to be tasked with adding more revolutionary features to the UI, I can tell you that.

Panda McLegion 6,203
War Kitten Panda McLegion Likes received: 6,203	#7 - 2011-12-28 19:47:34 UTC 4 Luba Cibre wrote: I like the ui. First mmo interface i can't custom mod.... FYP I hate the UI - First MMO I've wanted to dabble in actually writing my own. I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

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Ai Shun Likes received: 1,200	#8 - 2011-12-28 19:48:10 UTC \| Edited by: Ai Shun 2 There is a long thread dedicated to all things visual. And there is a suggestion forum with a few UI suggestions. I put my ones there, where they belong. However, I'm generally happy with the UI. A few niggly bits that could do with smoothing but overall it suits the game for me.

Dradius Calvantia

Lip Shords

Likes received: 406

#9 - 2011-12-28 20:01:39 UTC

The number one thing for me would be to make the overheating UI elements easier to see/use.

Besides that, there needs to be an option to disable the double click to approach function.

They could also do a little better job of conveying more information through the brackets in space. I would love to see the ability to display things such as warp scram notifications, range, and other relevant information on brackets within a certain (modifiable) distance of you.

War Kitten

Panda McLegion

Likes received: 6,203

#10 - 2011-12-28 20:03:58 UTC

In the interest of being constructive, here's a quick list off the top of my head:

* The right click context menus are too easy to accidentally shift the mouse up or down a pixel and end up in the wrong sub-context menu. A second right click on the context menu should lock in your choice and open the sub-context regardless of Y-axis mouse movement.

* THE ENTIRE FRICKIN' INTERFACE UPDATES ITSELF RIGHT ***AFTER*** YOU CLICK, BUT BEFORE PROCESSING YOUR INPUT. This makes it damn near impossible to select the right thing if you're: Selecting targets in battle and one dies, selecting overview rows in a busy system, trying to open a trade window with someone in Jita or Amarr... This one pisses me off the most.

* Ctrl+hotkey combos don't actually treat the Ctrl key part as a modifier key, but insist that you unpress and re-press Ctrl when doing more than one combo in a row (Ctrl-click, Ctrl-D, Ctrl-E...), nor does the client remember across multiple client windows if you still have the Ctrl key pressed. (Dual-boxing, targetting something on both clients, you have to release and re-press Ctrl on the second client) (And this all USED to work before the Carbonization stuff started happening - Le sigh)

* When hovering over a large stack of brackets in space, the UI expands the list upwards off the screen rather than centering it on the display where you can see them all.

* Several windows have huge minimum sizes for no apparent reason (Science and Industry, I'm looking RIGHT at you)

* Damage notifications text is in a bad spot right in center stage and can't be moved.

* Drones window groupings still forget their expanded / not expanded status (sometimes) if you launch all your drones at once.

* The list of targetted ships/things shouldn't always just slide to the right when one dies. This leads to way too many mis-clicks of targets due to the processing order of click-update-process (2nd reason up above).

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

Jimi Crackcorn

Directed Evolution Corp

Likes received: 75

#11 - 2011-12-28 20:21:12 UTC | Edited by: Jimi Crackcorn

Ai Shun wrote:

There is a long thread dedicated to. And there is a suggestion forum with a few UI suggestions. I put my ones there, where they belong.

However, I'm generally happy with the UI. A few niggly bits that could do with smoothing but overall it suits the game for me.

Well that's more of a general thread, for things like how crappy the male hair is in the game. This ones meant to be for the specific problem of the UI. And as for the suggestions forum... well everyone knows general is where all the cool people are soo yeah..

Back on topic:

Window snapping. Completely sucks. Sometimes when I close a windows that has another windows under it, the latter will jump up to where the former was. Like what the hell? Also, my windows pop up in a new place every time I open them. I wish they'd just stay the same size, and place that I put them.

More UI scaling options would be nice as well. 90% is still far too big for me, especially with all the things I like to have on screen at once. There's just not enough room and it gets cluttered pretty quick.

A maximize button, please. I like certain windows to fill the screen, clicking and dragging them each time I open them(window location rarely ever saving) is so frustrating.

Ai Shun

Likes received: 1,200

#12 - 2011-12-28 20:31:41 UTC | Edited by: Ai Shun

Jimi Crackcorn wrote:

It was never off-topic. You ignore a long thread about all visual aspects of the game (And it DOES include posts about the UI, but is about MORE) that actually has developer feedback (And thus attention). You ignore the suggestion forum which contains a number of useful threads on the UI.

You were the one that wanted a feature to block players ... yeah. You wanted the rating system to get rid of people that couldn't behave appropriately on the forums (By your criteria)

And yet, here you are. I'd support that feature now, if only to get rid of your useless junk posts.

Edit: Either way, you've exceeded my tolerance for stupid. It is time to ignore you.

Jimi Crackcorn

Directed Evolution Corp

Likes received: 75

#13 - 2011-12-28 20:38:13 UTC | Edited by: Jimi Crackcorn

Ai Shun wrote:

Jimi Crackcorn wrote:

Well that was a random spurt of rage you got there..

My posting in regard to your post was off topic in regard to this thread, which is why I said I was getting back on topic and began posting back about the topic of the thread, UI improvments.

And as I stated, that was a general thread about.. well it says it in the title, ALL. THINGS. VISUAL. I don't want to read through all of those just to find the UI related ones, hence why I made a thread specifically , FOR. THE. UI. As I already stated.

The important parts are in caps, just so the handicapped(you) can understand more easily.

Now please, take your unprovoked rage elsewhere. Perhaps to a doctor, you need one.

I'm sorry you took me saying "on topic" as an insult to you.

Planetarian

Federal Navy Academy

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 38

#14 - 2011-12-28 20:38:18 UTC | Edited by: Planetarian

First off the HUD need to be updated for easier access when not using keyboard shortcuts. The overheat button is very small and overheating an entire rack is not always the answer. Also placing the HUD whereever you want should be possible.

The overview is needlessly complex and much of the information could be moved to display on the ships in space instead. That would make it much more demanding to obtain information on whos webbing you and such. Many fights are fought using nothing but the overview and does not require much brainpower which is a shame.

The damage notification should be updated to pop from the ship that you hit in space and the damage they do to you should pop from them in space.

Targetting should be much more visible in space with the same information you get on the fixed window showing around the targeted ship in space.

Basically, "in space" view should hold all the information that is currently displayed using the overview.

Zoomed out figthing using nothing but the overview is so dull. Please make it go away !

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Novafox Shipyards 4,639
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards Likes received: 4,639	#15 - 2011-12-28 20:44:09 UTC 2 Possible different hp bars layouts like three bar and pure circle. Differnt buttons, all optionalized. Racial fonts as well one for amarr (closer to times new roman), gallente (ariel) , caldari (current) and one minmatar (comic sans :P) Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.

Velicitia

XS Tech

Likes received: 2,802

#16 - 2011-12-28 20:54:08 UTC

War Kitten wrote:

* Ctrl+hotkey combos don't actually treat the Ctrl key part as a modifier key, but insist that you unpress and re-press Ctrl when doing more than one combo in a row (Ctrl-click, Ctrl-D, Ctrl-E...), nor does the client remember across multiple client windows if you still have the Ctrl key pressed. (Dual-boxing, targetting something on both clients, you have to release and re-press Ctrl on the second client) (And this all USED to work before the Carbonization stuff started happening - Le sigh)

funny, it still works for me... have you tried clearing your cache lately?

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4,801
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation Likes received: 4,801	#17 - 2011-12-28 20:56:55 UTC 3 It's very easy to accidently activate or deactivate a module when trying to overheat it.

War Kitten

Panda McLegion

Likes received: 6,203

#18 - 2011-12-28 20:59:23 UTC

Velicitia wrote:

War Kitten wrote:

funny, it still works for me... have you tried clearing your cache lately?

Yes.

Which part works for you? Ctrl-click targetting across 2 clients without releasing ctrl, or using Ctrl-click to target in conjunction with say Ctrl-E to engage drones without lifting ctrl?

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

Beekeepers Anonymous 74
Avid Bumhumper Beekeepers Anonymous Likes received: 74	#19 - 2011-12-28 20:59:58 UTC 2 I would prefer a touchy-feelie interface myself... My Tinfoil hat has been sugically implanted, so no,it is not for sale.....

Chaos Delivery Systems 192
Marduk Nibiru Chaos Delivery Systems Likes received: 192	#20 - 2011-12-28 21:08:43 UTC 2 I'd like it if the overview worked. If I were to change something about the UI, making it work would probably be first on my list.