These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE Information Portal

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Dev blog: PLEX Changes On The Way!

First post First post First post
Author
Vladimir Stolichnaya
Rio Rancho Estates
#541 - 2017-05-06 18:29:14 UTC
A quote from the recent Dev Patch notes for the 119.5 release coming on May 9th.

" PLEX can no longer be used for Character transfer fee payments "

Something that, mmm, oddly enough was NOT mentioned in either of the Dev blogs about the PLEX changes.

Way to go CCPVague

So are we no longer going to be able to use ISK for this ?
Or is some new item going to be added in the store like Character transfer cost = 1000 PLEX ?


If Character transfers become a Real world money only type of transaction.
You might as well just delete the Character Bazaar section, because you would be killing it anyways.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#542 - 2017-05-08 17:41:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
I remember the old icon for PLEX, that with visible photo and CONCORD on the gold backgroud. You should make it a legacy item and give everyone for christmas. Call it Pilot license and describe how every pilot in New Eden must have it at all times.
oblivious Naskingar
Doomheim
#543 - 2017-05-09 16:04:24 UTC
So logged on today to find the Plex changes, let me give you some feedback

Changing my one big plex that I knew the value of both for services (game time etc.,) and on the market for a pile of chips that i need to stack into piles of 500 to do the things i want to do with them seems... oh what is the word i'm looking for... pointless? tedious? a huge drag, take your pick

Considering all the things CCP could have appied its effort to like, oh i don't know all the current game glitches we experience for our 500 individual little chits of plex, maybe putting some effort into making corp and alliance role management easier (silly me perhaps that will need a translation as CCP doesn't seem to be able to deliver any changes to the game that aren't mindbending complicated to achieve very simple activity or actions)

So go ahead mods delete my thread or tell my i'm flaming but i pay for my game time and i'm going to give you feedback like any customer and this is a thread about the things you've just changed to my game experience

My advice, remember that for the driving force of players who actually bring content to this game its about PvP and although a lot of other stuff needs to happen to enable that to happen if you take your eye of the reason the majority of actual content generators log is for PvP then you will succeed in turning internet space ship wars into a space mining simulator with tedious trading on the side
Moridunum Kanjus
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#544 - 2017-05-09 19:00:11 UTC
So the changes to plex and removing aurum is generally a good move. But why would anyone want an advertisement for plex in their inventory? Please let us remove the plex vault from the inventory window. I pay a sub, I don't want to have plex pushed in my face whenever I play.

The plex icon is hideous as well, really naff and cheap, at least put some effort into the design so it actually looks eve like and not something ripped from a f2p mobile game....
Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#545 - 2017-05-09 19:38:25 UTC
It may have been covered.....

You can no longer 'Deliver' PLEX to a Corp Member from the Corp Delivery Assets ( - don't see why not)....

It now gives you a single 'Move to PLEX Vault' option - which doesn't work.

Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium

Mokada Akiga
Bah Weep Grah Na Weep Mini Bahm
#546 - 2017-05-09 20:00:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Mokada Akiga
CCP has screwed us on the pricing of plex.

1 plex = 440 which is 19.99 not even 1 plex
220 for 9.99
110 for 4.99

notice each is half the other but you do NOT get half the plex, pure scam from CCP. CCP are the SCAM Artists. They need to be banned from the game.

On the other hand

39.99 will net you 880 plex, double the cost, not the plex.
99.99 you get 2200 5x the cost of 1 and you dont get 5x the plex.

And before anyone says well you get bonus plex, how long do you think they will keep that in play? I give it 1 week at best like any other sale.

CCP is screwing us over without lube. ******* us up the ass on the cost of plex. I predicted this would happen and sure as **** it has.

We were paying 20 bucks for 1 plex, now we pay 20 buxks and it doesn't even come to 1 plex. WTF CCP? Nice screw job assholes
Alexis Red
Doomheim
#547 - 2017-05-10 14:42:56 UTC
First Step towards shorter game time subs, yet more costly overall to play as Omega.... still a good move to push the game forward, as old players need to support change to help profitability or leave the game.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
It Burns When I'm PvPing
#548 - 2017-05-10 18:59:47 UTC
Marcus Tedric wrote:
It may have been covered.....

You can no longer 'Deliver' PLEX to a Corp Member from the Corp Delivery Assets ( - don't see why not)....

It now gives you a single 'Move to PLEX Vault' option - which doesn't work.


Yeah at first it said it wasn't yours when it was in the corp assets. So I contracted them all to a character and now I right click and say transfer to vault and nothing happens.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#549 - 2017-05-10 19:27:27 UTC
Could you change the game time to something other than 30 days?

24 hours? 7 days? 10 days? I mean you have the ability to micro it?

I don't play all 30 days, so why grind or pay for it?

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

Captain Tardbar's Voice Discord Server

Sagara Mithril
Cro-Magnons
Cavemen.
#550 - 2017-05-11 15:43:17 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Could you change the game time to something other than 30 days?

24 hours? 7 days? 10 days? I mean you have the ability to micro it?

I don't play all 30 days, so why grind or pay for it?


I thought the whole point of breaking the Plex into 500 parts was for people have easier access to activate hours of Omega State, which i was so freaking excited when they announced this new Plex method.... and... now i hear that you can't activate less than 30 days at a time? really?
Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#551 - 2017-05-11 15:58:57 UTC
Sagara Mithril wrote:


I thought the whole point of breaking the Plex into 500 parts was for people have easier access to activate hours of Omega State, which i was so freaking excited when they announced this new Plex method.... and... now i hear that you can't activate less than 30 days at a time? really?


Yes - because that was never intended nor planned....

This is a subscription-based game and every account requires an actual, or the equivalent, expenditure of that 'sub'.

What we now have is no Aurum - and just a single currency - that can be much more easily transferred (well, when the bugs are ironed out!)

Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium

Ikit Thanquol
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#552 - 2017-05-11 16:46:50 UTC
value reduced by 99.8%
function completely changed
yet the "Pilot license extension" name remains even tho this is clearly a new type of item
they sell them in weird stack sizes cheaply without mention of the fact that you now need 500
where have i seen this before... oh that's right! the jita scam chat!

scamming in jita may be bad but nobody beats CCP at their own game
Mokada Akiga
Bah Weep Grah Na Weep Mini Bahm
#553 - 2017-05-11 22:18:56 UTC
Alexis Red wrote:
First Step towards shorter game time subs, yet more costly overall to play as Omega.... still a good move to push the game forward, as old players need to support change to help profitability or leave the game.


How can screwing over those that pay to play or buy plex to help keep them going or get stuff faster be a good thing?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#554 - 2017-05-11 22:29:16 UTC
Mokada Akiga wrote:

How can screwing over those that pay to play or buy plex to help keep them going or get stuff faster be a good thing?

They haven't. Plex cost the same as before, and CCP ahve said they have no plans to allow shorter than 30 day Subs even with plex. (obviously atm so in a few years who knows but given how abusable it is likely no plans then either)
People are just failing at literacy and numeracy.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#555 - 2017-05-12 00:51:16 UTC
Sagara Mithril wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Could you change the game time to something other than 30 days?

24 hours? 7 days? 10 days? I mean you have the ability to micro it?

I don't play all 30 days, so why grind or pay for it?


I thought the whole point of breaking the Plex into 500 parts was for people have easier access to activate hours of Omega State, which i was so freaking excited when they announced this new Plex method.... and... now i hear that you can't activate less than 30 days at a time? really?



There was a faq entry that explicitly stated they weren't going to.

It doesn't make economic sense for CCP to do this.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Mokada Akiga
Bah Weep Grah Na Weep Mini Bahm
#556 - 2017-05-12 02:52:33 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Mokada Akiga wrote:

How can screwing over those that pay to play or buy plex to help keep them going or get stuff faster be a good thing?

They haven't. Plex cost the same as before, and CCP ahve said they have no plans to allow shorter than 30 day Subs even with plex. (obviously atm so in a few years who knows but given how abusable it is likely no plans then either)
People are just failing at literacy and numeracy.



Say that when the "free" or "bonus" plex goes away fro the offers. Before 20=1 plex=500plex which is 440+"bonus/free"60 for 20. When it stops and it will, it will no longer be the same cost, you WILL have to spend more to get the same.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#557 - 2017-05-12 12:08:36 UTC
Mokada Akiga wrote:
Say that when the "free" or "bonus" plex goes away fro the offers. Before 20=1 plex=500plex which is 440+"bonus/free"60 for 20. When it stops and it will, it will no longer be the same cost, you WILL have to spend more to get the same.



If, rather than When.

The extra is compared to the base of 110 for $5.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#558 - 2017-05-13 01:31:38 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Sagara Mithril wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Could you change the game time to something other than 30 days?

24 hours? 7 days? 10 days? I mean you have the ability to micro it?

I don't play all 30 days, so why grind or pay for it?


I thought the whole point of breaking the Plex into 500 parts was for people have easier access to activate hours of Omega State, which i was so freaking excited when they announced this new Plex method.... and... now i hear that you can't activate less than 30 days at a time? really?



There was a faq entry that explicitly stated they weren't going to.

It doesn't make economic sense for CCP to do this.

It could actually benefit CCP to have less than 1 month subs using plex.
Subbing an account with plex costs more than "add game time" but if you don't have a month to play, subbing for the time you can makes sense.
If CCP were to add say 4 days game time for 110 plex - 10 days for 220 plex it could encourage casual players (weekend warriors) and those who can't commit to a month at a time due to RL or financial restrictions.

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.

Perry Platterpus
not caring is best caring
#559 - 2017-05-13 10:47:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Perry Platterpus
so I plexed last night (put 500 plex in my vault and bought 30 days game time)

I cant find anywhere on my character sheet that says when game time expires

on my login screen it still says 5 days game time remaining

/....

what am i doing wrong where am i supposed to see these things?
Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
Seventh Sanctum.
#560 - 2017-05-13 20:21:00 UTC
Where can i ***** about "plex price game by ccp"? can;t find a good thread or all been closing all day long :(
and i really want to write about my frustration with the "plex" price changes with the new update... as it sky rocket to 1.3b per 30d of gameplay time :)

THANK YOU CCP :) you know how to ruin my wallet! screws..