EVE General Discussion

So my goal here is to start a thread and maybe reverse changes to the rorqual, or at the very least to rethink some of the changes made. Please I have tried to make this a non bashing post, it was hard due to some of the changes made last patch.

We are trying to unite and have a strong voice, and hopefully get heard by CCp.

Ok last post got shut down for not being or saying anything positive.

So due to new nerfs and imo some no thought changes to rorquals and there drones, my wife and I would like to thank you, as we will have a lot more time together. So there is a positive there .(just because I know there are a lot of people not smiling this morning, they need to, laughter makes life worth living.:)

Now my opinion is after trying this morning is that the nerfs and changes were made by people who didnt mine, or were against mining for some reason. or had a lot of ore stockpiled and were hoping for huge price jumps. But like I said this is my opinion..

I mined for an hour this morning after patch, and made aprox 110mil isk.

I almost had 2 drones killed with rats, that were bouncing off a backside of a roid.

Now there are a few others on reddit who share there stories also......

I adapted by changing to ice mining given how much more that makes and then just ship to jita and bring back ore works fine:)

Ya its dead alright.. 15km orbit when you sit at zero on a spodumain rock granted for the rest of em its not as bad its a 8-4km orbit but still.. given how limited you are with drone speed people who claimed well its only a 25% nerf bois are dumb. its at the very least a 50% nerf probs more.

Ice is where its at now. Already injected the skills and got the drones. Makes an avg. of 450m/h per rorq mining the entire belt.


Bad, fozzie killed the rorq. The new oversized roids are aids for excavator drones. They end up 20km from the rorq, it takes almost a whole cycle to return and dump. 30% nerf my ass. CCP needs to fire fozzie and quit hiring burger flippers as developers.(not necessarily my opinion, but made me smile. And I think Rorqual pilots need something to smile about today.)

literally better than a hulk. Good to see our 12+bil isk ship still out mines a hulk.

Didn't realize 10b per rorq was a relatively small cost.

Let's see.. old rate was what 200m an hour.. so to make 1 plex an hour, you needed to field 50bils worth of rorqs. not exactly what I would call a small cost.


Incredible badly thought out changes to the Rorq. One HUGE spod rock my excavators were 19k away from me, moving 500m/s sig radius 200m. Now excavators provide killmails, Rorqs are looking very vunerable. Also having to target a rock to go in to panic was another idiotic idea, what happens when the mining belts is finished?

Burger flipping developer comment made me lol, so true yet so disappointing.


Ok these are some comments from other players ingame on Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5zc7ks/opinions_from_rorq_pilots/

I would like to hear from other players who have been touched by this latest change to the Rorqual.

Couple of points here.

First off, there's already a thread to discuss the Rorqual changes.

That out of the way, you and a lot of the other threads here seem to be treating these large rocks as if they're 100% of the Ore Anoms. They're like 20% of the ore anoms at worst, and if you really hate mining them with a Rorqual you can have a 'friend' in a boosted Hulk mine them out while you eat through the rest of the belt.

The whole "have to target a rock" thing is also being over blown. To actually take advantage of this you need eyes on the Rorqual, which either means you have a neutral in system or an AWOXer, and in either case you know the risks you're taking and can plan appropriately, whether that's mining down to the last rock before swapping anoms or coming back and mining the last bit out with Exhumers/Barges/Ventures/whatever.

Lastly, none of this addresses the actual reason CCP nerfed the Rorqual, the balance of consumption vs production in the game.

It's not because they hate fun, it's not because they hate miners, and it's not because they don't know what they're doing. They nerfed the Rorqual because of the last three months on the MER graph. I can only imagine whoever is in charge of econ analysis choked on their coffee when they saw those numbers.

For that you can thank CCP for over-buffing the Rorqual with the initial changes (oops indeed), and all of the Carrier/Super ratting pilots who did some quick math, looked at how easy Rorquals are to multibox, and decided that maybe mining wasn't so bad after all and they should go pick up a Rorqual. *sad trombone*

rorquals are support capital ships to mining op fleets.
aka 1 rorqual for X exhumers.

not 200 rorquals and 1 exhumer.

nerf them more pls

Stopped reading right there.

You have completely lost the plot and any rational perspective.

If anything, this shows Rorq nerfs where not yet even nearly sufficient.

110mil/hr for afk shooting at rocks?
And you used to make 200mil/hr?
Are you fking kidding me?

Are we playing the same game?