Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The play for free is nice but just off its mark. I think if they let you use all you skills but you just can't train or use skill injectors I think it would make it much better. Invested a lot of time in my skills and would be nice to use them if I can play for free. I understand there has to be some push for people to pay and help out funding CCP. So I would suggest you just make clones cost for non subscribers cost higher Isk so there is a higher requirement for isk which would promote one of two things 1. More play time to make more isk to avoid lost of skills from deaths. 2. Purchase of plex or more subscription to gain skill points back.

How is it not good? if they freeze skill points for free account open all skills this would make the accounts actually playable. Then bring back skill lost on free accounts. This would incentivize subscription due to lost of skill points. You can't use skill injectors either unless you had subscription it would just let you use what you had lazy people would subscribe buy skill injectors or queue up to get skill points back.

It's basically burning skill points any encomist can tell you how burning money can healthen an economy.

I currently sub three accounts. I have three others unsubbed and unused at the moment. Under your proposal I would have six fully functional accounts that require no extra training. Personally, I would then be using the hundred or so planets worth of PI this would give me to make more than enough money to cover clone costs on the one or two characters that would actually be dying at any point. On top of the isk I make from my industry activities.

And I'm small time. Think how much the people with fifty mining alts or running incursions solo or whatever the truly space-hardcore do for isk are going to make, without ever having to pay CCP a penny again.

Removing the need to pay for anything ever is not going to be good for the finances of a company that relies on people paying for things.

There is definitely not a easy straight answer but this is why lost of skill points would need to be brought back on free accounts. Unfortunately the game was built on this subscription enconomy it wouldn't be an easy change but I don't think way it is now is effective either.

The actual f2p is simply a non-time-restricted trial.
It's exactly what CCP wanted...

And EVE isn't like any other game... so there goes that argument

You seem to forget that EVE is a niche game... unlike whatever Riot is making... lol

Apples and Oranges

That's three plex in six months. How does it make sense for CCP to change the game so that you give them three plex in six months, while I stop paying three plex per month?

A lot of us are perfectly capable of funding our own PVP. Or, we're in groups that pay for our losses. Why would people in that kind of situation ever need to give ccp another penny?

DO you mean 2 PLEX now and one maybe in 6 month as a total of 3 or 2 not and in 6 month scale that up to 3 for a total of 11 over 6 month?

It's sarcasm.... you should try it sometime.

And I am not saying should, I don't think I'm entitled to anything CCP produces or I take part of, UAC pretty clear about online content and account.

I'm saying If CCP wants my 60 bucks a year they will have to come up something a little bit different then the Free to Play a limited account alpha clone system they came up with. Which is a bummer because I really like ability to jump on and PvP for an hour or two a night but not worth the 100+ a year sub.

Putting t2 stuff on a pirate ship is blasphemy.