EVE General Discussion

Not empty quoting. Having been a member of the Imperium Goons are very good at supporting new players coming in from Something Awful.

Big things need small cogs too. Like I said Goons are very helpful for people new to the game from the Something Awful forums and then there are groups like Karmafleet, also in the same alliance as goons. They'll help with training both in getting the skill books and in what to train so you can get into a useful ship ASAP.

CCP has actually made this alot less burdensome. Back when I started it was more or less "Here is your noob ship, now **** off."

Now the NPE throws all kinds of stuff at you is my understanding....so they have changed that....and look subscriptions are falling.

Yup, with goons it likely meant you'd have been skilling for something like FuckYou Fleet doctrine ships....which they'd give to you at a nice fat discount.

And if you go logi, you can actually make is dying in those....but if you die in those alot you are likely doing something wrong.

Before FTP Alpha, Weekend user base was lucky to hit above 30 or mid 30 thousand users. Now, weekend users consistently hit mid 40 thousand or more. While I can't say that Alpha has been a huge success, it has grown the game.

Hey guys, I doubt my input is very valuable here. I've been playing for a week. I've heard about EVE for years, but always resisted starting because i was told that the game had a very high barrier to entry and was dominated by gigantic alliances.

Nonetheless i've decided to start playing it and have been enjoying my first week, trying out the different play styles to see what I like. I'm even planning on buying Omega with my next pay check. I just want to tell you this from a newbies perspective, one thing that really sucks is people like "CODE" who seem to actively have it out for new players like myself, as well as many of you here who i've read in this thread and in other topics on the forums.

Look, i get that this game is about blowing up space ships. The threat of being ganked isn't what bothers me. What bothers me is being told that i'm somehow detrimental to the game when I AFK mine in my Venture while cooking dinner in the few hours that i have to play after work. Or that auto-piloting through the confusing warp gate system somehow makes me a negative influence. And it's that sort of mentality that made me considering quitting after about my second day when I got a bounty put on my head simply for trying to learn the game.

You're more than welcome to flame me for my opinion, I probably shouldn't be stepping in to the forums with people who've been playing for 10+ years. Just my 2c. Thanks.

A wise man once told me that everything you do in EvE is pvp. If you think of it, you'll see how that makes sense for trading, ratting or even mining. But it's the same when you just talk to another player, or even when you post on the forum.

You may not see how CODE profits from certain aspects of who they are... but believe me they do. Don't take it personal, try to enjoy it. Many of us here particularly like the roughness of EvE, and it's various flavors.


If you take my very biased advice, I'd suggest you to do things that teach you a lot. And as far as I know, highsec mining only teaches how to not get ganked - mr Pech already outlined it's entire curriculum in a few lines.

Ahh, and bounties do absolutely nothing, besides making you look cool if it's high enough.

Well not just raids but canned content people can jump into or form a team for and do over and over and over and over again seems to have become one of the staples of the genre in general for the last 3-4 years and incursions aside Eve doesn't really cater for it and incursions have their own complications when it comes to catering for it. In some ways the gameplay is anathema to Eve but a small amount might be an enabler to getting some players deeper into Eve instead of quitting i.e. fleet participation earlier on can propel them towards corporations, etc.

I felt the same about CODE and the way it works in highsec. Still don't like the fact that you cannot do anything to counter their gank but they can strike first. The worst are in my opinion the Tornado gankers at main trade hubs who are scanning every ship waiting for a high load industrial then blast him on alpha, they they get themself podded, respawn at CONCORD station where they sell few tags to restore their security status and then they travel in capsule back to trade hub where they enter new Tornado and start over. Every 15minutes over and over.

Anyway - what CODE claims are just a nonsenses. It is a roleplay bullcrap that just cover the fact that they target only newbies who mine afk or semi-afk or those hauling some goods. What they claim is not endorsed by game creators - they are just a group of players that decided they will make their own doctrine and they will enforce it by suicide ganking. And therefore you don't have to take it seriously.

There was said a lot of their activities, some believe they are discouraging new players from the game, some say they only filter players who would not enjoy eve anyway. Be it as it is, what they are doing is fine by game rules and so they will keep doing that.

Don't get discouraged by them, if they destroy your venture they actually lose more than you - and ventures are lately the only thing they seems to be able to kill. Venture costs a 200k ISK and fit costs another 200k up to 2milions depending on the gear. If you want to mine afk then its better to use a cheaper gear especially if you mine in area where CODE ganks on regular basis. And they do not attack ships flying on autopilot unless they carry high ISK value of goods or its a capsule. They enjoy killing capsules but if you travel in rookie ship/corvette they will not attack you (unless you will carry skill injector in them ). If you are trying to haul some goods in industrial on autopilot then you should not carry more than 10mil ISK worth inside, otherwise you will get ganked on the road most likely.

Funny thing is, you don't have to do any of that anymore. Not even the skill training.

Also, people have been saying "oh CCP, you better do X or else the game is just gonna slowly die" for like a decade and a half, so it doesn't really stir anyone, sorry. :)