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Advice for a begginer

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Abelard Cherenkov
Adocsalas Mesterfokon
#1 - 2017-03-09 15:00:49 UTC
I started playing EVe on this Monday, I fninshed the agent missions yesterday.
I really love this game, but it is too huge for me right now. I know should start the SOE missions. Apart from that, could you please suggest thigns to try out? Which ship should I train, and collect money for?

I don't know yet what I want to do on the long run, right now I want to try out everything.

Thank you for every advice.
Taurean Eltanin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2017-03-09 15:06:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Taurean Eltanin
Well, why not try out everything?

While Eve is serious business, it's still just a game at the end of the day. Pursue the things you like and enjoy, and stop doing them when you no longer like and enjoy them.

Now that we have the hippy-dippy baloney out of the way, let's talk strategy.

First, everything in Eve is more fun with friends. Seriously consider joining a corp. Eve Uni is welcoming to new players, and won't require you to narrow your focus, but if you decide to go in a particular direction, there are numerous other options. Faction Warfare for pvp, for example, or Brave Newbies for null sec.

Second, everything in Eve is easier with ISK. Think hard about developing a skill set that brings you in cash. Make sure this is something you enjoy, or at least don't hate, as you will do A LOT of this. Mining is easy, but dull. Exploration is exciting and rewarding, but the income is erratic. Mission running lets you develop your combat skills. And so on.

With a good corp, and a fat wallet, you are half way to winning Eve.

If you like reading about low sec piracy or wormhole pvp, you might enjoy my blog.

Keno Skir
#3 - 2017-03-09 15:34:38 UTC
Get decent in a frigate or other small ship before trying to train into a larger ship. While it may take x days to "sit in" a larger ship, it takes much longer than that to have the support skills that are expected when you fly the larger ship. Frigates are deadly to larger ships, EvE is not a "bigger is better" game where the best gear beats the worse gear.

Communicate a lot with other players on the forums, in game and in your corp / alliance channels. EvE is a social game and you will learn much faster by surrounding yourself with experience than by going it alone (believe me i went it alone..).

Don;t split your tank (general rule not absolute) or weapons (unless you have to due to hardpoint layout). Try to put all your eggs in one basket so to speak with regard to tanking and damage. It may seem smart to have a weapon for each kind of enemy you may encounter but you will discover it's better to have all your DPS at one range and work on putting the ship in that place. Splitting weapons generally means your damage application sucks at ALL ranges. As for tanking, each race have a preferred tanking method (again general rule not absolute) and their ships will reflect this in slot layout and base stats.

Amarr - Armor Buffer
Gallente - Armor Active
Caldari - Shields
Minmatar - Can generally do either shields or armor, but don't do both Big smile

Finally, don't be an a**hole. It's easy to be angry when you are killed, but it's better to remain calm and ask your killer for tips on how not to die next time. They are playing the game correctly too, even if you were not looking for a fight.

Hope some of that jumble helps, feel free to get in touch for further help.

Fly dangerous Pirate
ISD Cedanor
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#4 - 2017-03-09 18:39:04 UTC
Lo,

There is so much that you can do in EVE, it can be quite strange with so many things to do. This image includes a lot of the things that you can do in EVE:
https://english.eve-guides.fr/images/wtd.jpg

Have fun!

ISD Cedanor

Ensign

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2017-03-10 06:00:10 UTC
Hello and welcome to Eve.

Doing the lv 1 SoE Epic Arc will give you time to train up the Core Fitting Skills and make some ISK in the process while deciding which career path you'd like to pursue.

May you have a long and rewarding career here in Eve.



DMC
Abelard Cherenkov
Adocsalas Mesterfokon
#6 - 2017-03-10 09:04:30 UTC
Thank you all! I made a list based on the chart, about what do i have to try. (:
It is daunting, how hige this game is. I played Freelancer, and X3 before, but this seems like almost the perfect game for me.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2017-03-10 10:54:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty Bear
If you've played other MMO's some concepts you will be familiar with
and some others just don't exist in eve

essentially missions = quests
however in eve you aren't led by the nose from one quest hub to the next
mainly because eve doesn't have quest hubs

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What the [UNDOCK] button really means

"is it ok if you explode somewhere in space" [YES]

and there is no [NO] option (apart from never undocking)

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ISK is a disposable resource

Your ship is a tool used to accomplish a specific goal
Different goals will require different tools

Your ships (and the modules fitted to them) are disposable resources

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To answer some of your questions

The industrial side of eve is massive and can be quite complex, it can also take a lot of investment (ISK, training time etc) to get into properly for some aspects of it.

Mining is the easiest to get into. Yes it can get incredibly tedious, but those ores & minerals are essential in creating new disposable resources for combat.

Missions & Incursions are good for earing ISK

PVP keeps the industrially minded players in eve very busy making & selling new things.

Wormholes can be the most fun & entertaining places, and the loneliest & most boring, they combine pve and pvp combat, salvaging & exploration, and resource harvesting all in 1 location
Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2017-03-10 11:09:15 UTC
If you take an advice... learn, try, experience. Get veterans on voice some way, and bug them for their knowledge until they get pissed. Than get some more. Join people who seem to know what they are doing.

Don't get stuck in an activity that gets you money but teaches you nothing. If you catch yourself grinding, stop it!


Knowledge, experience and wits will get you farther than any ISK or assets you can make in your first months.

Just my 0.2 ISK.

Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.

Keno Skir
#9 - 2017-03-10 11:50:32 UTC
Yebo Lakatosh wrote:
If you take an advice... learn, try, experience. Get veterans on voice some way, and bug them for their knowledge until they get pissed. Than get some more. Join people who seem to know what they are doing.

Don't get stuck in an activity that gets you money but teaches you nothing. If you catch yourself grinding, stop it!


Knowledge, experience and wits will get you farther than any ISK or assets you can make in your first months.

Just my 0.2 ISK.


Not empty quoting. Yebo here has been getting fully involved since day 1, he is worth paying attention to.
Gregorius Goldstein
Queens of the Drone Age
#10 - 2017-03-10 12:10:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregorius Goldstein
I play EVE for 8 month now and there is still so much I want to try. I started with hauling, missions and exploration because that was what most people told me. Was quite boring to me. Best thing was when they tried to gank my badger and I made it to the gate with 5% hull left.

Then I moved on to ninja huffing and got a bit crazy about the ISK. I have still funds left from my huffing days. Next thing I did was to learn the mwd-cloak trick, d-scan magic and how to use save spots. Used those skills to roam through HS, LS and NPC null while looking for lost drones, AFK miners and abandoned player stations. Found an AFK deep space transport that dropped one billion ISK that way (could only haul 240mil away.. darn).

Now I am doing combat explorations and try not to lose ships when I go into lowsec. Lost a Gila but was still ISK positive that day. I never looked into research and mining because that didn’t sound like something I would enjoy. And I didn’t do any fraction war yet, didn’t join a big null block and most of my PVP was baiting with a Battle-Nereus and Ferox.

Long story short: Find whatever fits you. And perhaps think about what you want to become: Part of an mighty army, squad-leader, solo fighter, master of elaborate traps, tycoon, warlord, spy, diplomat, hard (AFK) worker, truffle pig (that is kind of what I do most of the time) or anything else.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2017-03-10 12:32:52 UTC
Get yourself killed a couple of times is what I would suggest. It shouldn't be too difficult.
Lucian Skord
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2017-03-10 13:24:59 UTC
Agree with the above

I hear amamake is nice this time of year
Lizard Terelli
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2017-03-11 06:28:49 UTC
The suggestion of getting into frigate skills is one about economics as well: small sized stuff are cheap. You make mistakes, its okay! The stuff is cheap and you can lose it again and again. Skill times are also usually shorter compared to the bigger hulls like cruisers and battleships so you'll get into the level4s faster which usually unlocks certain modules or whatnot. Frigates also warp fast, so travelling from system to system takes less time and you finish tasks faster.

Unlock modules, round up your basic 'fitting skills' that increase powergrid, CPU, capacitor pool/use and since frigates usually depend on 'dodging' skills, skill up the agility and subwarp skills. Extend your overall flexibility with rigs, implants and drugs while you're at it.

Back then when I started, I was obsessed with the question 'What is possible?" eg. for a certain activity, how much did it pay out? How long until I accumulate 100M with this activity compared to another activity? How risky is it, how afk-able is it? (because I have a lousy 'net connection) Is latency an issue, can I make some mistakes? etc.

Reading in eve (along with a couple of spreadsheets, hehe) will get you far and as a small time miner back then, I was mining ores in one window and I had a browser on the forums on another, with tabs on youtube vids, market discussions, science and technology, 3rd party websites/programs, dotlan, eve central, killboards, etc etc.

This semi-afk setup let me progress the game at my pace and as I answered my what-ifs one by one, my game accounts increased to four accounts and as I got more comfortable, eight mining accounts.

So yeah ask questions, try new things, read more! You're doing Eve right!
Nikea Tiber
Backwater Enterprises RD
#14 - 2017-03-11 06:40:24 UTC
Train your core fitting skills, especially the two capacitor related skills. Core fitting skills benefit every single ship you will ever pilot, so time spent training them is never wasted.

Join a corporation, and start flying frigates and getting proficient with them; after over ten years in the eve cluster, I still feel frigates are the most exciting class of ships to fly. Learn to be good fast tackle and you will always have a spot in a fleet.

Find a corp, undock in a tech 1 tackle frigate and a whelpable head and see what sort of fun crappens.

my other nano is a polycarb

Kathern Aurilen
#15 - 2017-03-12 06:23:28 UTC
Nikea Tiber wrote:
Train your core fitting skills, especially the two capacitor related skills. Core fitting skills benefit every single ship you will ever pilot, so time spent training them is never wasted.
that is 100% true, I didn't realize how much I was missing on my core skills till I dropped back down to alpha. I only had my fitting, capacitor, and power grid skills to 2 and was suffering for it.

Train the mandatory skills all the way and they will serve u well in every ship you will ever touch.

No cuts, no butts, no coconuts!

Forum alt, unskilled in the ways of pewpew!

Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2017-03-12 14:57:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
All good advice above, I particularly like the "truffle pig" picture. Lol One thing so, learn from others, veterans, but make up your own mind. Don't let others define for you what you can do or what is fun. Don't just strive to be "useful", it's your game.

I'm my own NPC alt.