EVE General Discussion

Whole previous post seems to not be so good because I like the game and would like it even more with WIS.

This thread was made to open a discussion. I am not at all disappointed in the game, otherwise I would not be playing it, I am in fact really enjoying it and glad I found out about it. Just curious to why WIS never came to fruition, now I have a better understanding. Needless to say, not much of a bother to me. It's healthy to discuss and this is indeed a place of discourse regardless of opinion.

I don't ever see WIS happening within the eve online client. The technical difficulties combined with player views make this unwise.

However as CCP move towards an increasing number of eve universe related games and increasing VR presence I certainly see a place for a social space to bring together players from eve online, project legion etc.

Whether that sits best in project legion maybe with the ability to manifest there with a character wearing eve client assets or somewhere else is a different matter.

Those new ideas are in fact old. I find that what ever I would think of, there was someone before who points to me there was something like that discussed before, and I am only here few years. Seriosly, its nearly 15 years already. Countless people have moved thru the game and forums.

If you go back in this thread I already asked this question, but I'll ask it again anyways: How many times does CCP have to fail to do something before you accept reality and say "well I guess that's not going to happen"?



Additionally, do you think it's "bittervets" that stopped CCP from doing the things they tried to add such as:

-Ambulation

-EVA exploration

-Atmospheric flight

-The DUST/EVE Link

-The talk about multiple separate hit locations on ships (ie being able to target engines and such)

-Comet Mining

-Alliance Treaty System

-Fleet Formations

-Tech III Frigates and modules (T3Ds might be the fruit of that work, but there are still no T3 modules, and 2009 was 8 years ago lol)


If you hang around because you bought into a vision from pre-2003, you're being a bit foolish, Even CCP admits they tended to over promise.



That vision you like to talk about is dead. Your choice is to wallow in a past broken promise or live in the present and make decisions about how you spend your time based on what you have instead of what you don't.

you can't say that, people play other games, always have always will, we're talking about EVE here and is there a demand for WiS.

so why doesn't the people that want this go and start a petition and let's see how many account holder back it.

if they want it that bad and they get enough people to sign up then they can present their case to CCP directly and see how it goes from there.

these what ever happened to " insert you demand here" threads never amount to much now do they, so why keep banging the same ole drum

Is there serious demand for WiS in the EVE community ? I've always been under the impression that it's a quite small yet vocal minority that continue to ask for this to be implemented much like the few players who want to create 'True HS'.

Now don´t get me wrong, if WiS could be implemented without any intereference to the Dev's development of the rest of the game and if WiS had a real impact on gameplay rather then just being a flashy new 'thing' I would be for it. The odds that this will ever happen is close to zero though so I wouldn´t hold my breath.

the eve community is wonderful when they all agree there's some serious issues with ccp's direction and lack of attention. if only this was a perfect world and led to firings of the dev's who have kept ignoring the issues within the game.

- afk cloaking... yes i said it, yes it needs to be fixed, and yes its beyond time it gets resolved you have a 400+ page debate about this issue and still not one peep from a ccp dev on how its going to be resolved.. must be a sympathetic dev that wants passive afk gameplay working there.. it does indeed point to ccp doesn't care about broken mechanics.

- since no interiors in WiS/WiC... why does ccp continue to try to sell clothing? you cant see your full body unless you right-click and view full body.. this is so tedious that its becoming more fun to simply play with makeup.

- Why can we not get some interiors for these citadels.. now this is a big one, you'd assume since the station level replacements would include all features of a station.. yet it does not.. seems like another indicator of a waste of time and effort made by ccp. i wonder how long it would take ccp to make Fedo II.. what excuses would they come up with

- CCP spent a ton of time and focus grouped (mainly from mega-coalitions) and listened to all their grips about what needed to be changed. yet they also didn't expose what they do to exploit the game at the same time.. jump fatigue, hot-dropping, cloaky camping, gate camping, sov-warfare, system upgrades, all fell on deaf ears as ccp still doesn't have a freaking clue to resolve these matters without FEAR of folks leaving.. its fozzie's best meta-game at work here. so instead they choose to go the opposite direction and fix the most non relevant aspects of the game.. their NPE/PVE content stinks so bad that players can finish it in 1 day.

- "this is a pvp game" this main crowd just needs to stfu and htfu and realize one thing about eve is its beyond just 1 battle arena and everyone can choose what they want to do in this game.. point blank period.. you cant force me into null, you cant force me to join your mega-coalition no matter how much you try, you cant force new players to be part of BoB if they have no idea what a turrent is.. eve needs to expand so much but cant cause of this bam, wham, thank you maam approach to guns blazing. meanwhile other options out there provide a multi-tude of content which sets them far apart from eve online.

- Griefing, the root cause of eve's downfall is due to the sociopaths that play this game, only a small number come here to try it out and they'll instantly quit almost due to the random trolls, griefers, and racist that plays this game.. ccp needs to step up efforts to curb this mess. ive witnessed and experienced this myself and their lack of dealing with the issues proves ccp is just some off-shore company that just doesn't give a damn.. how in the holy fawks can you defend racist people.. you stink ccp you really do.. im glad someone defaced that monument in Iceland!.. which is again something the community never even asked for!.. how come you didn't put that in-game? lack of thought right!!

- Lack of Immersion.. yes ccp can juice up the graphics abit, yes they can reimage an old ship, make explosions look better, but they cant even include a bridge in a ship, cant view from the cockpit, cant even manage to have a bar right in a gigantic keepstar cause...reasons.. gtfohwtbs... folks pay to play, not pay you to provide excuses..

Ccp is the only company i can think of that says... we make spaceships.. but are dumbfounded on making the hanger for the spaceship to dock in.. walking in stations...wuts dat???

And I hope that PSHHH guy is not working on it. But it all loooks like the repeat of disaster like WoD development was.
From lack of informations to the different attempts at doing it.