EVE General Discussion

Game Designers learn this, and it's the model for every 'grind' in every modern game.

http://yukaichou.com/gamification-study/behavior-principles-and-good-game-design/
https://levelskip.com/misc/Skinners-Box-and-Video-Games

and on and on and on. This is the same reason you can build so many 'craftables' in most games now, too. in Wow, the requirement of 'dailies' virtually forces you to return if you want the currency bonus. Most will log on, at least once a day, to get the bonus, and then log off, even if they're otherwise bored.

I'm doing the power nap version of taking a break from EVE right now.

..I've been involved with Eve for 10 years, I've played Eve for a good number of those years.

I wouldn't call Eve work, it's just intense. And sometimes pilots choose to take a little break from it. It's one of Eve's charms.

Even hobbies sometimes require a break. Doing too much of anything, even things you enjoy can lead to burnout. So it's healthy to mix things up. If you need to step away then step away. I've never understood why so many people think they can only ever have 1 hobby.

The only time I think its in good form to let people know if your taking a break is if you are in a leadership role within a group having the ceo or a director suddenly **** off for who knows how long is never a good thing.

But of course when you step into that role you are taking on extra responsibility and so standards are gonna be a little bit different for you.

Well when you are 71 years OLD and cant drive and most of your friends are dead, online games helps you keep your sanity.

Well I was going to write something similar to this :


Even though I was thinking something similar to this :


Guess now all I can say is :

Eve Is Real ............... I Was There ............... Internet Spaceships ............... Serious Biz





DMC

Games are not supposed to be fun.

We are nothing but the animals pushing a button to get a prize in a box. Fun is not real. You are not allowed to have fun becomes games have literally become serious business. A bad quarter can mean a low stock price in the long run so you must keep the chickens happy and logging in at all costs. Sell them things too! Must always sell the chickens things that make them happy and feel unique as a chicken clicker. We can change the skin of the button and outfit we wear while pressing it! Ooooooooh so amazing isn't it?

The battles mean nothing. Even though others like to watch the animals in captivity at times and the things they do in their crazy pens, in the end it means nothing. You all exist to fuel the machine and keep it oiled as well. Round and round we go in this overthought insane existence. We are being used.

There is a reason for that; most online games have an activity monetization strategy i.e. they earn money when you do things. This is a legacy of the "free to play" plague, which nearly killed the online games using access monetization i.e. they earn money because you can't play the game without paying them beforehand.

Activity monetization games use incentivization to keep the players doing things and thus potentially paying money. They reward the player for doing things and punish him for not doing them, but at the deepest level they're just a pay-for-reward system, like a vending machine. "Fun" is just one of the possible rewards, and psychologically it's not a very effective one; people rarely come back for more fun as fun stops being funny very fast. Fun haves an element of surprise, thus basing your game on fun means that you must keeep adding new content (and making it succesfully fun) in order to get money, and that is very difficult and eventually the creator always fails to keep up the pace.

So no, activity monetization games are not fun as that doesn't hooks players hard enough, and are designed to reward for paying money and punish for not paying money.

OP is tumblr-tier waffle.

In physics, "work" is synonymous with energy applied against reciprocate forces.

Everything you do, including breathing, is work.