EVE General Discussion

You could argue that there are ways to back up your brain, technologically, before you go into a WH. If you are spelunking it will only be a few hours at best, if you live in one chances are you have a clone bay, currently, in an astrahaus that you could "save" a copy of your updated brain scans at that would transfer these then out of the wh if you die and then again the few hours or a day or two issue would apply.

Now with neural injectors being what they are the lapsed, or "lost" SP, that would accrue between the last backup and your current time/implant total SP pool would simply be added back into your neural pathways upon the new clone being initialized. Basically think of it as a top off of the proverbial tank.

But thats just off the top of my head.

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You could argue that when CCP got rid of clone ranks that was when the cloning facilities introduced the topping up method, and before this they didnt have that technology so when you got popped with an inferior clone for your SP amount you actually lost those SP permanently. But since the clone changes it was always an automatic top up. and this tech lead to the ability for neural boosters and skill extracting and injection abilities which CCP made available to all capsuleers only a short time ago.

And that this topping up measure was the beginning of skill injecting technology from a lore perspective.

according to the science lore there is the lesser clone technology where you use a saved brain scan, downside for that service is that anything accumulated after that scan is basically lost (lore wise).

explains capsuleers whom might die outside a pod still being immortal.

Quantum Entanglement is science speak for "This shouldn't work this way and I have no idea why it does."

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I go with the idea that if a clone is indistinguishable from 'you', how is that not you to everyone else. When you're podded your conciousness ends, and an identical clone is awakened that believes it is you and everyone else believes is you.

The capsule tech is Jovian in origin. The actual answer is that you basically FTL-coms email yourself to your new body.

From what I remember about the warp drive lore is that it shifts or partially shifts the ship in to subspace. That is why you can warp through planets and such. Additionally that is why you can't be hit while in warp and why the targeting computer is having trouble locking and keeping lock on targets that are in warp


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I'd be surprised the post future future didn't have better duracell bunnies

It might be possible to send data between two locations so as to "update" either point on the other end, instantaneously.
Or to link two points such that they reciprocate change to the other.

But where the logical conclusion of this fails in EVE, is that if it was possible to instantaneously do so, why are there not clones of clones, of clones etc?

This raises the question of what is the nature of causality, and hence whether any two parts of this universe can be identical, and hence interchangeable, or are unique.

Each clone of a clone will experience unique circumstances. If they are all interconnected instantaneously, they effectively comprise a society of one, where each exists under different personal circumstances.

At what point of complexity would these clones of clones begin to differentiate?

Even if their experience is shared with the whole network of clones, instantaneously, their circumstances are unique, and hence differentiated. The interests and circumstances of one clone will invariably override those of another, within the same shared consciousness, making the others subservient. They are unique, and self-interested, as every other part of that group consciousness.

That society of one, thus becomes a conflict/interest based system, definitively not "the same" in equity between the clones, but rather an increasing dynamic between the circumstances of clones the more there are of them, making the group consciousness increasingly fragmented between them. Competing parts of "one", fragmenting the core "one", each in its own interest, and hence no longer identical, but unique.

Tldr:
If I have 1000 clones operating simultaneously, each under unique circumstances instantaneously, what am "I"?
Do I define them all, or do they all define me?

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