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CSM XII - Make EVE Great with Spanish Speakers

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Juvenius Drakonius
#1 - 2017-03-01 00:54:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Juvenius Drakonius
For the second year of the Elections of the CSM I wish to add a topic to the agendas and proposals of all the candidates.

Take our petition to CCP to make a Localized Client in Spanish for EVE ONLINE.

We have made a petition in the order of hundreds of signatures in Change.org, a active campaign in social media with the hashtag #quieroEVEenEspañol and this past year in EVE VEGAS 2016 I personally took the cause #QuieroEVEenEspañol to @ccp_seagul @ccp_orca and others in CCP Games, at this time we don't have a clear timeline of this happening.

After the Alpha clone patch was released we have seen a considerable rise of new players of spanish speaking backgrounds, all our forums, social media groups and media channels it is clear that now more than ever having a Client in spanish is a must.

Spanish is the second most spoken language in the world, with well over 400 million speakers dozens of nations of whom just a fraction now play EVE due to the limitation of the client, in contrast we have the client localized in japanese were just a fraction of the world speaks it .

It makes sense to have it in both player numbers and profits for CCP. There is precedence that in the past CCP was looking to do it, but it did not get off the ground.

Make this one of your Goals as a CSM member and you will have the votes and support of the hole Spanish playing community of EVE.

Please take it in consideration,

Best Regards

JD

Reference:
http://www.hablaeve.com/iniciativas
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5343105#post5343105
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5016400#post5016400
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1782976#post1782976

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Enki Kaoz Ruiz
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2017-03-01 01:15:05 UTC
+1 we need spanish client to facilitate the game to Spanish speaking players #QuieroEVEenEspañol
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commander aze
#3 - 2017-03-01 01:56:16 UTC
Id be happy to push for more multiple language support and accessibility within eve online. ITs a great idea and opens new markets

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Will Rainor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2017-03-01 13:01:25 UTC
I'm supporting this.

/signed.
Benji Recon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2017-03-02 00:38:15 UTC
A lot of my friends dont play this game because dont know english, if that change more people come to new eden, sure, CCP can read the numbers, the size of the spanish players is growing, and the prospect of new players are really big.
Zurvan Kailth
Rekium
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2017-03-02 05:09:39 UTC
+100Cool!

/signed.
Sowi Oskold
Dead Suns Rising
Dead Heaven Syndicate
#7 - 2017-03-02 14:36:50 UTC
+1 apoyen chicas Lol
Fera Morti
Coelum
#8 - 2017-03-02 14:38:59 UTC
+1 me too
Jan Hipster
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2017-03-02 14:41:34 UTC
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Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
#10 - 2017-03-02 21:12:08 UTC
I love the idea: se habla Español. But it gonna be hard to make this happened. Might be they need real numbers more than the fact of saying "a lot", "second speaked n the world" and so forth.

You might have to see this from business side and have also study cases of how this have work for other games.

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#11 - 2017-03-02 22:04:55 UTC
It's been suggested a number of times. It likely will be suggested a number of times more.

But Localising a client is more than just 'translate all the text'. (That's around 61 thousand pieces of text. which will generally increase)

You also need the marketing in that language. Support. etc etc. So there are on going costs.

At that point you have the business decision. Will I make more money doing this, with the increased costs, then if I don't. It's not like everyone who speaks Spanish as a first language will not play Eve. There are some who do. Is the difference enough?

(It's not a question I can answer. But CCP is a business. The answer has to come down to cold hard cash on something like this.)

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Amorto Guzman
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2017-03-03 11:00:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Amorto Guzman
Quiero Eve en Español. #quieroEVEenEspañol

Quote:
I WANT EVE IN SPANISH
Valkin Mordirc
#13 - 2017-03-03 12:12:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Valkin Mordirc
These Localize spanish threads have popped at least once more then what the OP as listed, but I can only remember once.


Honestly thing is, if CCP can make a profit off localizing the game for Spanish speaking players, that would be pretty great all around, however I honestly don't think that the demand for it would be high enough. Even Spain does not rank top 10 of internet usage sitting at 71%. Other places like Mexico is 43% and Chile is 65.

Compared to English, which the USA is 84.2 and the UK is 89%. France is 81% Australia is 83%. and Japan is 86. Also you have to look at the culture of the speakers of sad language. Most English speaking countries are very heavily engrossed into the Gaming subculture. Japan even more so.


Spanish native country don't really come to mind when I think 'Gaming'.

However I'd imagine partly, French and German localization has happened is because a lot of German and French speak English and a second language. So maybe that's a possibility that could work in your favor.


Source: http://www.internetsociety.org/map/global-internet-report/?gclid=CMDxw9GlutICFdK1wAodVMACSg
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Juvenius Drakonius
#14 - 2017-03-03 14:23:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Juvenius Drakonius
Valkin Mordirc I disagree...Games like LOL, WOT, WOW have a big presence by spanish speakers at this moment, LA and Spanish Speaking countries have a very fast growth rate and potential of business in the coming years with internet penetration growing in +5% each year. Here are some numbers of penetration

Language / Internet Users by Language / Internet Penetration (% Population) / World Population for this Language (2016 Estimate)

English / 948,608,782 / 67.8 % / 1,400,052,373
Chinese / 751,985,224 / 53.1 % / 1,415,572,934
Spanish / 277,125,947 / 61.6 % / 450,235,963
Arabic / 168,426,690 / 43.4 % / 388,332,877
Portuguese / 154,525,606 / 57.9 % / 266,757,744
Japanese / 115,111,595 / 91.0 % / 126,464,583
Malay / 109,400,982 / 37.8 % / 289,702,633
Russian / 103,147,691 / 70.5 % / 146,358,055
French / 102,171,481 / 25.9 % / 393,892,299
German / 83,825,134 / 88.3 % / 94,973,85

Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico, Spain, Uruguay, Venezuela…....Just imagine 500 to 2000 active pilots of each country activating their accounts in just a few months after a localization, plus all native spanish speakers living other countries interested in playing with fellow country men .

Localizing a client is not that hard and support is not that great of a deal in overhead. The big win here is having a game that has big numbers and big content, that will even attract more players of a already saturated market of the existing localizations.

True this is a business decision by the part of CCP but it is a shallow assumption to rule out a localization without an in depth look into the possibility. I’ll go as far to say that the next big leap in player count will be by emerging economies and cultural diversity.

Here is some food for Though, the second most popular youtuber in the world is a chiliean spanish speaker called holasoygerman ....spanish content and more than 31 million subscribers....of the top 10 youtubers he is the only one that has content in a language other than english ....why is that? why is he not chinnese or arab or russian?

#QuieroEVEenEspañol Join in the Cause.

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Valkin Mordirc
#15 - 2017-03-03 21:13:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Valkin Mordirc
You number show the same thing I said. Spanish is lower than all the other localizations. Again it's close to English, which where did you pull from? As I would assume that my source show English speaking users should be higher than and your numbers show.


My source seems to allude that your numbers might be wrong, Or Vise Versa.

A lot of the countries you mentioned, Ecuador, México, Perú, Nicaragua, Panamá, Costa Rico The Dominican Republic, and Uruguay do not have high internet penetration. Logically CCP could only target Spain, maybe Chile, Puerto Rico, and Venezuela.

Spanish may be a popular language, it's a hell of a useful language to know, but unfortunately just because a language is common doesn't mean it'll be prolific in a Video Game. It also depends and where it is spoken.

Also I don't think saying that a business decision is shallow. CCP needs to make profits not losses. If they can not make a profit with Spanish Localization then it hurts everyone else. Including the spanish players as no one gets updates and patches because they need to recoup.


Like I said if the demand is there. I wholeheartedly support it. But I honestly don't think the demand is there.

Running for CSM however and getting voted in, would show that is there. And I wish you the best of luck.
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