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[Proposal] Stop putting forward proposals that are stupid as hell and impossible to implement.

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Stahlregen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2011-12-28 07:19:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Stahlregen
This forum is absolutely hilarious when it comes to clueless publords championing their own exclusively personal gripes and issues with the game that affect precisely zero players except themselves. Instead of clogging this forum up with pointless, impractical ideas or entirely aesthetic fixes and why not focus on coming up with solutions to the numerous long-standing problems with the game that actually impact a decent portion of the playerbase?

Stupid, impractical proposals include but are not limited to;

Proposing entirely new classes of ships.
Demanding the CSM demand clarifications from CCP on xyz.
Purely aesthetic changes to ships eg; logos, paint schemes.
Massively complex overhauls to game mechanics that aren't actually broken.
Anything to do with NEX or captains quarters.



You have been given the most successful and energetic CSM to date to carry your ideas to CCP. Why are you wasting this opportunity with proposals that clearly haven't been thought through or apply to such a small subset of players that makes them not even worth the attention of CSM members let alone the bother of implementation?


My humble proposal; Stop being dumb.

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. IT'S CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE THE MAIN CHARACTER, RIDDICK. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN' WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME NECRO BASTARDS. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXY'S MOST DANGEROUS PRISON. I CAN.

Aineko Macx
#2 - 2011-12-28 07:31:35 UTC
Was going to support until I read
Stahlregen wrote:
You have been given the most successful and energetic CSM to date to carry your ideas to CCP.
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-12-28 07:34:39 UTC
The Assembly Hall is a relic of the time when the CSM was considered by a few to be a 'parliamentary' body; it should really be merged into the existing Features and Ideas subforum, as CCP doesn't pay attention to upvotes in AH or thread-spamming.

~hi~

Delegado Cero
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-12-28 07:39:06 UTC
Aineko Macx wrote:
Was going to support until I read
Stahlregen wrote:
You have been given the most successful and energetic CSM to date to carry your ideas to CCP.


This is true, I doubt those lazy CSM faggots even read this forum.
BBJ Shepard
#5 - 2011-12-28 07:47:37 UTC
Stahlregen wrote:
This forum is absolutely hilarious when it comes to clueless publords championing their own exclusively personal gripes and issues with the game that affect precisely zero players except themselves. Instead of clogging this forum up with pointless, impractical ideas or entirely aesthetic fixes and why not focus on coming up with solutions to the numerous long-standing problems with the game that actually impact a decent portion of the playerbase?

Stupid, impractical proposals include but are not limited to;

Proposing entirely new classes of ships.
Demanding the CSM demand clarifications from CCP on xyz.
Purely aesthetic changes to ships eg; logos, paint schemes.
Massively complex overhauls to game mechanics that aren't actually broken.
Anything to do with NEX or captains quarters.



You have been given the most successful and energetic CSM to date to carry your ideas to CCP. Why are you wasting this opportunity with proposals that clearly haven't been thought through or apply to such a small subset of players that makes them not even worth the attention of CSM members let alone the bother of implementation?


My humble proposal; Stop being dumb.


Cool

?(:

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#6 - 2011-12-28 09:06:24 UTC
Stahlregen wrote:

Massively complex overhauls to game mechanics that aren't actually broken.

This.

Especially when you see five pages of discussion concerning some idiotic mechanic that would take a full team of programmers years to execute properly. E.G. "missiles and projectile weapons hit ships based on line of site, damage weapons systems, propulsion etc. oh and you can see the damage occurring in real time too. Like torn solar sails and shizzle".

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#7 - 2011-12-28 09:12:44 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
The Assembly Hall is a relic of the time when the CSM was considered by a few to be a 'parliamentary' body


AH is also a relic of a bygone era where the CSM would actually try to communicate with the players more than CCP did. Soon we'll be hearing about how The Mittani dissolved the Senate and … oh hang on, that's the other evil empire storyline.
Aineko Macx
#8 - 2011-12-28 09:38:03 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
The Assembly Hall is a relic of the time when the CSM was considered by a few to be a 'parliamentary' body

AH is also a relic of a bygone era where the CSM would actually try to communicate with the players more than CCP did. Soon we'll be hearing about how The Mittani dissolved the Senate and … oh hang on, that's the other evil empire storyline.

+1

Ass. hall is currently the only formal venue for interacting with the CSM and raising proposals. If it is removed you have to provide a replacement. F&I is not it.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-12-28 14:16:10 UTC
Stahlregen wrote:

My humble proposal; Stop being dumb.



So your proposal to end all the impossible requests in the assembly hall is to make the most impossible request of all? People can't stop being dumb. Individual persons can, but as the size of a group of people increases, the combined intelligence of that group decreases to match the intelligence of the stupidest member.

You only need to look at 4chan or youtube to realize the truth of this.

Frankly, you'd have better luck proposing an idea to NASA to move the moon a little closer so we could have better surfing.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#10 - 2011-12-28 14:30:33 UTC
Aineko Macx wrote:
Was going to support until I read
Stahlregen wrote:
You have been given the most successful and energetic CSM to date to carry your ideas to CCP.


Stahlregen's argument is only supported by the facts, and as Homer Simpson wisely commented, you can prove anything you like with those things.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2011-12-28 14:34:37 UTC
Stahlregen wrote:
This forum is absolutely hilarious when it comes to clueless publords championing their own exclusively personal gripes and issues with the game that affect precisely zero players except themselves. Instead of clogging this forum up with pointless, impractical ideas or entirely aesthetic fixes and why not focus on coming up with solutions to the numerous long-standing problems with the game that actually impact a decent portion of the playerbase?

Stupid, impractical proposals include but are not limited to;

Proposing entirely new classes of ships.
Demanding the CSM demand clarifications from CCP on xyz.
Purely aesthetic changes to ships eg; logos, paint schemes.
Massively complex overhauls to game mechanics that aren't actually broken.
Anything to do with NEX or captains quarters.



You have been given the most successful and energetic CSM to date to carry your ideas to CCP. Why are you wasting this opportunity with proposals that clearly haven't been thought through or apply to such a small subset of players that makes them not even worth the attention of CSM members let alone the bother of implementation?


My humble proposal; Stop being dumb.


Sturgeon's Law. The obvious corollary of this Law is that for every 1 good suggestion, you need to wade through x bad ones, and further, that the rate of good suggestions will always increase more slowly than the rate of bad ones. It sucks, but that's people for you. If the AH produces no more than 4 or 5 good proposals out of the 800-1000 made every year, then it has served a worthwhile purpose. The 996 bad proposals are simply the price you pay for getting the 4 good ones "for free".

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-12-28 14:51:34 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Stahlregen wrote:

My humble proposal; Stop being dumb.



So your proposal to end all the impossible requests in the assembly hall is to make the most impossible request of all? People can't stop being dumb. Individual persons can, but as the size of a group of people increases, the combined intelligence of that group decreases to match the intelligence of the stupidest member.

You only need to look at 4chan or youtube to realize the truth of this.

Frankly, you'd have better luck proposing an idea to NASA to move the moon a little closer so we could have better surfing.

What she said ^^^

Making a stupid post about stupid posts is...stupid.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821

Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-12-28 15:08:50 UTC
Stahlregen wrote:
This forum is absolutely hilarious when it comes to clueless publords championing their own exclusively personal gripes and issues with the game that affect precisely zero players except themselves. Instead of clogging this forum up with pointless, impractical ideas or entirely aesthetic fixes and why not focus on coming up with solutions to the numerous long-standing problems with the game that actually impact a decent portion of the playerbase?

Stupid, impractical proposals include but are not limited to;

Proposing entirely new classes of ships.
Demanding the CSM demand clarifications from CCP on xyz.
Purely aesthetic changes to ships eg; logos, paint schemes.
Massively complex overhauls to game mechanics that aren't actually broken.
Anything to do with NEX or captains quarters.



You have been given the most successful and energetic CSM to date to carry your ideas to CCP. Why are you wasting this opportunity with proposals that clearly haven't been thought through or apply to such a small subset of players that makes them not even worth the attention of CSM members let alone the bother of implementation?


My humble proposal; Stop being dumb.


Hey the bee, no one cares about your opinion on how/what, so suck it up. Don't like it? -don't read it.

I liked to read your crap post, you seem angry about something. Tell us all about.
Stahlregen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2011-12-28 16:12:39 UTC
If the court will allow I would like to submit the above three posters; Exhibit A, B, C, as examples of the aforementioned 'dumb people' referenced in the OP.

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. IT'S CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE THE MAIN CHARACTER, RIDDICK. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN' WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME NECRO BASTARDS. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXY'S MOST DANGEROUS PRISON. I CAN.

Aineko Macx
#15 - 2011-12-28 16:18:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Aineko Macx
Malcanis wrote:
Aineko Macx wrote:
Was going to support until I read
Stahlregen wrote:
You have been given the most successful and energetic CSM to date to carry your ideas to CCP.

Stahlregen's argument is only supported by the facts, and as Homer Simpson wisely commented, you can prove anything you like with those things.

If you mean that without the current CSM CCP would have fallen harder on its face before starting to change things for better, you are probably right.

My quote above was a refusal to agree to stealth mittens **** sucking.
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-12-31 08:59:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyprus Black
Delegado Cero wrote:
This is true, I doubt those lazy CSM faggots even read this forum.
Nice bro-stash you got going on there.

Kinda creepy. You look like the sort parents won't let their children near.

Summary of EvEs last four expansions: http://imgur.com/ZL5SM33

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#17 - 2011-12-31 11:41:30 UTC
You mean like this proposal?

Get out

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-12-31 12:13:04 UTC
Hear Hear!

I agree completely. Lets get back to our grass roots and bring back the issues that really matter.






lol

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Smiling Menace
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-01-01 18:05:28 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
Stahlregen wrote:

My humble proposal; Stop being dumb.



So your proposal to end all the impossible requests in the assembly hall is to make the most impossible request of all? People can't stop being dumb. Individual persons can, but as the size of a group of people increases, the combined intelligence of that group decreases to match the intelligence of the stupidest member.

You only need to look at 4chan or youtube to realize the truth of this.

Frankly, you'd have better luck proposing an idea to NASA to move the moon a little closer so we could have better surfing.

What she said ^^^

Making a stupid post about stupid posts is...stupid.


Ah, but it's not as stupid as saying it's stupid to make stupid posts about something that's stupid. That would be beyond stupid and would give stupidity a bad name.

But back on topic (sorry Mods, couldn't resist Big smile ) I do agree that people should think really hard about hitting submit on their latest brain wave and think just how many people it would affect first. If it's less than 2 (ie the proposer only) then for the love of God, don't submit it.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#20 - 2012-01-02 06:18:14 UTC
Burn this OP, its poster and his crappy who gives a f&*( alliance with fire.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

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