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1. Rorq's right now can mine about 150m/200m isk worth of ore per hour. About the same as a Hel ratting balls out. Those numbers are high considering the rorq has to move alot, drone travel time, time spent out of core, nuet activity and so on.

2. Double nerfing the drones both yield and more trip time back and fourth, So you have 12b worth of a rorq in core mode ready to be jumped on and ganked. 12B would take 60hrs worth of 200m ore isk/hr with having the high risk of losing it. Not good ,,not good at all.

3. The amount mined is also not liquid isk like ratting..you have to turn that ore into things that you usually sell at a lose of total isk worth you mined.

PS: It seems like you are making these changes based on non indy toons, or someone how reads non indy toons thoughts of the rorq and not the actual ppl that use them.

Final thought, Making the main materials for the excavator drones drop mostly in drone region space is complete insanity, drone region space already has higher bounty due to npcs not droping loot, now you give them extra isk for the elite drone AI and drone augments that drop more in drone region space then other space.

All I can say is I will differently be playing other games coming out when these changes take affect as it will not be beatifically for the Risk to award equation. First Nerf already had me not wanting to play, now this will make me shut down all 10 of my accounts until something else in eve is exciting and brings me back but I doubt it.

Translation, please either work on something else or find another change to make to fix my super amazing minerals faucet other than nerfing it...

Nerfs are very rarely popular with people who use a ship, that doesn't make them bad or unnecessary though.

The fact that the ISDs had to go through and remove at least a full page of posts says that people can't react to things and make their views clear in a calm, rational, and respectful manner. Let alone present a rational and well supported argument in support of their views.

well, we also get no loot most of the time... and **** salvage...

someone did the math, you'll loose fully 25% of ur optimal yield...
http://pastebin.com/8WbfwhGU

i don't think i've ever seen CCP take such massive nerfbats to anything... maybe CCP should try nerfing carriers 25% dps, see how that goes over

The only equivalent shitstorm would need to affect the "el1t3 peeveep33 which would be a 50% reduction to t3 cruiser dps (initial rorq + this nerf) oh. AND drop all t3 optimal/missile travel time by a solid 40% or so.

Can you imagine? like that one guy said, this is brilliant, the same people making every excuse in the book about how "lol rorqs deserve this free win ships shud die" would IMMEDIATELY begin a thread-rage storm that'd probably clog the forum servers.

It's like....there's a double standard....or something.

Are you going to make T1 and T2 versions of the Capital Mining Drone??? With the cost of Excavator's, with the reduced capacity, it's going to lower the risk vs reward factor of having a multi-billion ISK ship out there. Not saying that we won't still have them out there, just that the rvr is skewed more now.

And before everyone complains, I am talking meta 0 and meta 5, with lower outputs than the faction ones

Here we go again..... Making massive changes without even CONSIDERING some of the repercussions.... And then mocking people when the point it out.. I guess if taking peoples ISK with tricks and then pulling out the rug from underneath them and trying to thin out the game is CCP's goal, they're doing a good job of it...........

Personally I dont think there is enough salt here being spread to get into the minds of CCP.

I also agree that burning Jita for a month or longer till all of high sec feels the burn that is being placed on null space. This alone will make the price of minerals go north if that is what CCP wants. Maybe all of null should join in and pick a place or a region in high sec to burn.

This way the only real value will be left in the hands of the null sec players...............join or die. evil laugh :)

Corps and alliances have sunk massive amounts of isk into structures to make their home better to keep up with the JONES or die trying.

Members that are all part of eve have paid tons of isk into buying skill injectors and the most of it has gone to fly the massive capital ship called the rorqual, in addition to the ship itself and the expensive mods and rigs, now lets add the massively over priced drones that I am sure tons of plex was bought to pay for it.

Members who bought plex, renewed their accounts and or in one form or another put our real money to enjoy this game called EVE are feeling quite burnt by CCP.

It is the old members who are your base players who fund your great game, it is the returning players who want back in to enjoy what they have been missing, and you now have a new members coming in who want to see this awesome game has to offer.

Grayscale left us high and dry after he had his fun with us and we were hoping we would see a more moderate person STEP UP; and this is not the case as we have seen.

I have been playing with 2 characters for 10 years and have watched trit prices go from .8 isk to 6 plus to what it is now. Another example is megacyte at 5k plus to less than 1k to its current price. there is nothing wrong with the mineral pricing as it is all player driven.

The proposed changes on the Rorqual for now the second time are beyond belief.

When was the last time any of you have seen CCP engage with its player base in game???? for me it is never.

When Band of Brothers was around in days of ol' many of CCP members were players also and could see first hand the changes they made both good and bad effected the mood of its players and in many cases the loss of its player base.

IF the rorqual is to be a capital mining ship then stop f'in it up. Many are lost daily in EVE and are replaced based on its value.
What value do you CCP propose it is worth now after impliment the new and up and coming changes???? about the same prior to making the RORQUAL a viable in game ship.....and it was about damn time too only to have it tossed to the scrap heap.

Now then, as an old player and from my own point of view. I have not mined nor ratted in this game in about 6 to 7 years as it was a complete waste of my time to do anything but do PVP.

I have found a new found love of indy by making capitals and its mods, I have mined a bit in the big toy and love it and have even found my way to a super that i would have not be sitting in if it was not for Capital mining ship.

I was probably with in months of leaving this game with both accounts due to utter boredom.

Time will tell in your wallet if this is a good decision.

Removed post discussing Forum moderation.

Its really easy to keep your post here. CCP tells you what you cant do.