EVE General Discussion

Here's the argument, this was posted in the Assembly Hall.

For years Gankers have been spewing out this argument, and apparently for just as long people and players have been daunted by it, no doubt, because they have been unable to gather information to contradict it. CCP won't release the numbers of people who quit after being Suicide ganked. Or the numbers of people who cite having been Suicide ganked as the reason they are quitting. So, the Suicide Gankers have been having a field day mystifying everyone who complains on the forums with their absolutely absurd arguments.

When I first bought my first Pirate Battleship it cost over 1 Billion Isk. The Machariel was awesome! Well worth the price. However, almost immediately after buying my first pirate BS the price of them began to drop, and has been dropping steadily ever since. Right now, the pirate battleships are selling for just over 300mil isk. And if this trend continues the price of a Pirate Battleship will drop to below the price of a T1 Battleship! Clearly, the Pirate Battleship are being over-produced and the price of them is being driven into the ground.

At the same time, the price of T1 Battleship has risen slowly and the price of Maruaders has held steady at well over 1 Billion ISK.

It is the price of Pirate Battleship that proves the absurdity of the ganker argument, that ganking maintains the value of items in the game! Ganking doesn't maintain anything! Ganking drives away players and has NO benefit for the game whatsoever!

And the reason why the price of Pirate Battleship is going down is because they are being OVER-PRODUCED in Low and Null Sec! Because it is in Low Sec and Null Sec where there is NO competition! Low Sec and Null Sec players are greedily, voraciously farming LP with the pirate factions then turning that LP into Pirate ships which they are literally flooding the market with. I bet they don't even notice the steady drop in price!!!

Why aren't the shining, holy Gankers riding to the rescue of the market and Ganking the corps and players that are farming pirate LP and protecting the market from being driven into the ground which is the righteous, holy quest of the Gankers???

Because ... you're ... full ... of ... ......!!!

The sole purpose of the Gankers is to Grief other players! This is why Gankers have shifted from Suicide Ganking HULK's to suicide ganking Maruaders and other high sec blinged out ships! Because its about attacking Soft targets of high value because that guarantees Grief. Nothing but Bullies kicking over everyone's sandcastle but their own!

Trying to justify taking other kids' lunch-money by saying its good for the school economy!

IB4L?

A real good example here of someone seeing only what they want, and confusing facts.

He mentions LP for pirate battleships. Not one mention of the fact that CCP increased the escalation chances for anomalies (which means more escalations, which means more pirate battleship BPCs).

And then he displays more ignorance by suggesting that pirate battleships will cost less than T1. Meaning he doesn't understand how the price of something can't dip below the cost of the materials used to build it.... Pirate battleships were way overpriced do to scarcity, they are cheaper now because of CCP increasing escalation chances.

I mean really, how batshit crazy do you have to be to conflate pirate BS prices, ganking, and safety in high sec?

Dont forget the nanite paste topping

Methinks someone is taking this game waaaaaayyyyy too seriously

Regardless of reasons (or lack thereof) - gankers will do what gankers will do. They have fun doing it and It is a profitable way of playing.

I carebear as much as the next guy (is that a verb?) but honestly, if HS was actually safe, I'd quit out of sheer boredom.

Take a deep breath OP, maybe take a step back and stop focusing on what you perceive as negative. Focus on the positive.
Maybe actually talk (politely) to a few gankers - some are quite friendly. It may provide you with new insights

My 0.02 ISK

In before the gankers?! Arrrggghh... damn... too late

So are rattlers 300 mill now? *pulls out the wallet*

I, for one, welcome faction BSs costing less than T1. suh-weet! market factors schmarket factors

nice coherent responds to a post that I was left saying "wait what!?" to

the only thing I can really think of is isk/ehp ratios that mission runners and haulers, and not gankers, came up with to hopefully fly under the gankers radar. Or maybe something about production vs destruction, which according to the last econ blog we were producing far more than we were destroying, but I'm pretty sure that has been mostly true for a long time now.

Is this about the three Incursion-fit blinged Vindicators that got ganked on acceleration gates? Because that was due to the Incursion FC being a total d*ck with respect to a contest payout on his Twitch live stream.

So, does the Op want people to suicide-gank more Machariels then?

I'm sure that could be arranged.

EvE players don't quit because of suicide ganks.

WoW players do that.

Go back to WoW.