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To be honest, what's the best way of making ISK?
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Shawnm339
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#81 - 2011-12-29 09:14:28 UTC
Pinaculus wrote:
Kurama Bingyi wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Scamming is, by far, the best way to make isk. Mining is probably the worst way to make money and is so boring you'll quit the game in frustration before you make enough to recoup your investment in exhumers, mods and skillbooks.


To be honest, Harlot's telling the truth. If you go to Amarr, there's a character named "Spaceship Barbie" (or something like that) who's racked up over a dozen-billion (I think those are the numbers) ISK just from doing the Tritanium (I think that's what it's called) scam - basically selling a single ore for ludicrous amounts of ISK, saying that they were buying Trit and were willing to pay that amount of money.

Also, Harlot's in GoonWaffe, which makes its living off of scamming. So you're getting this from an expert in the field.



There's a couple of things that I just can't understand about this.

Who doesn't know that the 1-trit contract is a scam? It's so obvious!

And Spaceship Barbie is e-famous for scamming, so how does anybody give her money?

I guess I just give people too much credit. Maybe there really is a sucker born every minute.


I have spoke to the guy he's actually a stockbroker if I remember rightly or some kind of financial guy......what you've just said there is precisely why SB can make isk which he/she then uses for pew pew....greed sometimes overcomes common sense and that's exactly what is needed for the scheme to work.....like any other such scheme or even to chatting up woman in a bar you might get 99 slaps but you only need 1 to say yes to make your night end happily
Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#82 - 2011-12-29 10:31:30 UTC
steady income - pop low sec rats until you have 15 mill (can be done in tech 1 frigate)

do lvl 3 missions repeatedly (possibly courier) to get +3 implants, repeat until you have 50 million

get drake, do easy lvl 4 missions, get Raven when you have 120 million.

When you have Raven, continue farming LPs and work towards 200 mill goal.

Join a null sec alliance and start ratting from day one, keep doing anomalies. Goal - bounty, salvaging, profit, faction, officer, minerals. Hit 1 000 mill (one billion).

Get a carrier, assign fighters, continue making fast ISK.

When you have 2-5 billion go hisec industry or WH colonization.

This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.

WARP DRIVE makes eve boring

really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again
Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
#83 - 2011-12-29 10:33:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Admiral Pelleon
I've made most of my ISK through meta 6+ item flipping. It's very easy, can be done 100% remotely through contracts, and requires almost no time investment. I have my niche market that I specialize in, and run everything through an alt corp.

Corp has a director with a masters degree in finance. He makes all of our heavy ISK through market manipulation and general numberfaggotry.

Those who cannot keep up will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Vatruha
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2011-12-29 12:38:31 UTC
A mix of scams, good luck and generally a mix of all of the above made me a lot of isk.

Turning the ISK in to bought GTC's and training sitter alts, then tengu characters made me even more. Never once used my debit card for training them or selling them on.

Downside to all of this, I now have more isk than I know what to do with (over 100bn liquid, plus more in assets and toons). Along with three or four nice characters I like. Still all sounds good so far right? I've owned and sold a super, was nice to try it.

Now I'm at the point where I'm not sure what to do as I don't need to make money. I find it hard flying for faceless corps that demand you fleet up but offer nothing in return.

So in short, worry less about making the ISK. So long as you have enough for the next ship it's all good. It will also give you something to constantly aim for while trying out the next new aspect.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#85 - 2011-12-29 14:08:49 UTC
Admiral Pelleon wrote:
He makes all of our heavy ISK through market manipulation and general numberfaggotry.

Now number faggotry sounds interesting. Does that mean he sticks 3 fingers in some ones butt and pulls out a billion ISK?
Vito Tattaglia
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#86 - 2011-12-29 23:45:50 UTC
Okay, well I think I will give up mining, as I've been ganked twice in the past two days. Unfortunately, I need some advice on how to get enough money to buy a Drake for level 3 and 4 missions. I have access to level 2 security missions with Minedrill, but the best ship I have is a Caracal and I only have 30 million left, when a good Drake fitting will cost about 50.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#87 - 2011-12-30 01:44:53 UTC
Vito Tattaglia wrote:
Okay, well I think I will give up mining, as I've been ganked twice in the past two days. Unfortunately, I need some advice on how to get enough money to buy a Drake for level 3 and 4 missions. I have access to level 2 security missions with Minedrill, but the best ship I have is a Caracal and I only have 30 million left, when a good Drake fitting will cost about 50.

So you got five pages of responses and what you took away from them was to run level 2 missions?

:cripes:

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Vito Tattaglia
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#88 - 2011-12-30 02:05:43 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Vito Tattaglia wrote:
Okay, well I think I will give up mining, as I've been ganked twice in the past two days. Unfortunately, I need some advice on how to get enough money to buy a Drake for level 3 and 4 missions. I have access to level 2 security missions with Minedrill, but the best ship I have is a Caracal and I only have 30 million left, when a good Drake fitting will cost about 50.

So you got five pages of responses and what you took away from them was to run level 2 missions?

:cripes:


Not just that obviously, I've taken the other options into consideration, but running missions is the only one that is easily available to me right now.
Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
#89 - 2011-12-30 02:06:27 UTC
Doc Severide wrote:
Admiral Pelleon wrote:
He makes all of our heavy ISK through market manipulation and general numberfaggotry.

Now number faggotry sounds interesting. Does that mean he sticks 3 fingers in some ones butt and pulls out a billion ISK?


I'm not aware of the details, but I've heard it's illegal in many countries.

Those who cannot keep up will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Jorn Isu
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#90 - 2011-12-30 03:10:39 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
It isn't about money. It's about making Lady Harlot hate you...ummm...Freudian slip there...

If you look at this as a shopping center with the only hold up being no credit card, like most of these scam scam scammers do, then you'll never have enough since enough will never be enough. You make a billion, and all you can see is that "1" and the itch hits you about turning it into a "2". Once that "2" is there...where's my "3"? On and on it goes till it rolls over to the next denominator.

Even if you had billions to buy a buncha crap, most of it you couldn't use anyway wivvout that training...training...training...which leads to the OTHER motivation - capability. Being able to do some things very well and just not bothering to do them because they're beneath you is far more rewarding than making endless ISK in a race to nowhere special.

You see, true freedom lies in your ability to just do NOTHING, and gloat about it. The catch is, if you can't do anything then doing nothing isn't very special. If you can do EVERYTHING, and do it well, then not doing anything becomes the quintessence of pleasure. That's when you're in the leisure class.

Don't be a squirrel and constantly rabbit for money (pardon the mixed metaphor). Be a lion and just hang out surveying your surroundings with untouchable arrogance. You'll be glad you did!

Or you could make 50 bn and buy a 120m SP character.
Malsia Vaille
Not So Smart
#91 - 2011-12-30 05:16:07 UTC
New player to new player...

What I found is the games tutorial process, among other things, kinda makes you spread your skills out too far. What I did after I realized this, was focus purely on combat missions to start, as its a solid form of income. I farmed level 3's (Which is easily attainable with Connections trained to 3 or 4), and made easily 60-70m every couple hours with loot and salvage. Additionally, it's really quite easy to train up for a solid battle cruiser to do this.

After you get comfortable doing combat missions, and can make ISK when needed, then train for whatever you want (I.E. Mining, Etc.)

This is just my experience so far anyways.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#92 - 2011-12-30 05:40:07 UTC
Vito Tattaglia wrote:
I've been playing for about a month now, and so far I'm pretty poor in EVE standards. I only have 33 million, and 20 of that was made from selling my christmas gifts. I've been focusing on mining, but that is getting slightly dull, as I'm only making 300k every 7 minutes in my Retriever. Botting is a no go, as I prefer not to be banned. I was thinking of buying a PLEX, but I want that to be a last resort as I want to spend as little money on EVE as possible, other than the monthly sub. Right now I'm trying to train Mining Barge 5 to fly around a Covetor, but that is still 20 days away. What would you guys suggest I do in my position to make some ISK?


In the end isk comes to isk, but you gotta start from somewhere...

You clearly have archived one step by getting yourself into retriever. That will help you get your replacement ships in the start of your career. However hisec mining for iskies is rather narrow bread in long term...

For new pilot tutorial missions are good starting point. After those hop into a destroyer and head to complete the sisters of eve epic arc mission chain. When those have been done, you might want to check the cosmos missions. In this point you should have much cleared vision and fresh ideas how to continue the journey. You most likely have made some friends too.

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DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#93 - 2011-12-30 09:07:30 UTC
Join a large, faceless 0.0 alliance and rat in belts, it can be done in any battlecruiser and should make you 30million/hour??? Someone correct me there as I haven't done it in so long, keep doing that to keep your money coming in until you find your true niche.

Damn nature, you scary!
Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club
#94 - 2011-12-30 09:39:09 UTC
convo me in-game, I'll share some evil tricks with whomever asks me. ^_^
Amon Tyr
#95 - 2011-12-30 11:51:04 UTC
Devil's Call wrote:
Vyl Vit wrote:
It isn't about money. It's about making Lady Harlot hate you...ummm...Freudian slip there...

If you look at this as a shopping center with the only hold up being no credit card, like most of these scam scam scammers do, then you'll never have enough since enough will never be enough. You make a billion, and all you can see is that "1" and the itch hits you about turning it into a "2". Once that "2" is there...where's my "3"? On and on it goes till it rolls over to the next denominator.

Even if you had billions to buy a buncha crap, most of it you couldn't use anyway wivvout that training...training...training...which leads to the OTHER motivation - capability. Being able to do some things very well and just not bothering to do them because they're beneath you is far more rewarding than making endless ISK in a race to nowhere special.

You see, true freedom lies in your ability to just do NOTHING, and gloat about it. The catch is, if you can't do anything then doing nothing isn't very special. If you can do EVERYTHING, and do it well, then not doing anything becomes the quintessence of pleasure. That's when you're in the leisure class.

Don't be a squirrel and constantly rabbit for money (pardon the mixed metaphor). Be a lion and just hang out surveying your surroundings with untouchable arrogance. You'll be glad you did!


Most genius reply I've read in ages.

It's a load of bull crap. If you are at the point where you can do everything, but can't be bothered to, you have lost the game. Or rather the game lost you, as you have burned out. The game won't be as exciting anymore, and you will need to find another game to play, but there are no other good sandbox MMOs out there that will give you the satisfaction EVE did. A totally depressing place to be in IMO.
Mahzuni
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#96 - 2011-12-30 12:03:50 UTC
let me be your mack daddy pimp. best way to make isk period.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#97 - 2011-12-30 14:09:01 UTC
Cap Tyrian wrote:
convo me in-game, I'll share some evil tricks with whomever asks me. ^_^

Like your phone number?
Dervinus
LowKey Ops
Snuffed Out
#98 - 2011-12-30 14:09:48 UTC
Its all about the scamming. Effortless and fun way to make boatloads of isk

o7 toonies
Lord Azeroth
Perkone
Caldari State
#99 - 2011-12-30 15:59:35 UTC
Join a Null alliance and bot your heart out. Makes tons of isk and CCP doesn't care.
Migrator Soul
Filthy Peasants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#100 - 2012-01-02 00:37:17 UTC
wormholes. /thread