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Restrict players to ships of their faction (an end to meta-gaming)

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#201 - 2017-02-22 10:04:24 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Amojin wrote:


Rich Girl brought up rl, not me. The closest I came was canon in another FAKE, environment.


Wut? Shall I assume you got noting...as usual?


Of course. Isn't that what your cyborg generation has? If you didn't ask Siri, do you know?

*pat pat on your little head* Go back and read. It's not hard. P2P should not be as powerful as they are. Simple. They should not be allowed to have, not only battlecruiser and up, but skill lines for that, for everyone.

Or, maybe CCP should be honest in killmails, and find a way to emblazen on it 'I killed a tiny Alpha!' ?


Wut? Serioulsy, we have gone from game philosophy to this?

Maybe we should just have CCP emblazon your KMs with "tiny ****".

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#202 - 2017-02-22 10:07:54 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:


The galaxy we live in has open slavery, people imprisoned so their face can be cut off and given to someone else, we fly around in spaceships and willingly sacrifice hundreds and thousands of crew while wiping out millions of other people (and that's just PVEers).

BLM and antifas have no place here. Not just because of the RL meaning of those terms, but because by New Eden standards, they are laughable..


I'm sorry. Did you just say that ****? IRL everuy race, at one time or another, has been enslaved. Lost to the Roman Legion? Congratulations, sir or madam, of whatever skin hue, you are now a slave.

In EVE, only the Minmatar were slaves, right? But, they were, right So, the idea is canon, right? And that they might be irritated, right, and that the Gallente, which I joined PRECISELY becauuse I had no choice, since it was the only true Democracy in New Eden... Well, we suck, too, right?

Only Alphas suck. Gallente with their free love and communes are fine, if a little on the effeminate side.

They have some ok ships. I don't mind flying them. I can luckily, because I'm not a cloning reject.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Amojin
Doomheim
#203 - 2017-02-22 10:08:33 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Wut? Serioulsy, we have gone from game philosophy to this?

Maybe we should just have CCP emblazon your KMs with "tiny ****".



See? And I'm the one that has to always let this go. UFP Wiz or no. Our mere philosophy malkes people think they can get away with whatever they want, no matter how bad, and we'll try to suck it up!

Fortunately for you, the UFP was based on RL USA./Christianity. Yeah, you'll get away with it, for what it's worth/ But you have outed yourself, and not everyone is as nice as I am.
Breg Valkar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#204 - 2017-02-22 10:10:27 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Amojin wrote:


Rich Girl brought up rl, not me. The closest I came was canon in another FAKE, environment.


Wut? Shall I assume you got noting...as usual?


Of course. Isn't that what your cyborg generation has? If you didn't ask Siri, do you know?

*pat pat on your little head* Go back and read. It's not hard. P2P should not be as powerful as they are. Simple. They should not be allowed to have, not only battlecruiser and up, but skill lines for that, for everyone.

Or, maybe CCP should be honest in killmails, and find a way to emblazen on it 'I killed a tiny Alpha!' ?


Hello Amojin,

As mentioned before, Alpha is not the default state of playing this game. Alpha are an extended trial with an option to upgrade to Omega.

Categorically, Omega and Alpha are in a decent spot right now, and I've completely debunked your claims earlier about your alleged 'bullying' THe answer has always been simple.
1) Get friends
2) Get Omega

Please do not bring traditional F2P games into the mix. EVE is not and has never been anywhere near that.
Honestly, at this point you'd need to take a step back and have a closer look at EVE. Roam around and join various activities, be an Alpha for a while if you need to, but this time instead of applying your worldview to everyone, try to understand everything you see and how it all fits together. See things through their lenses instead of assuming you speak out for Alphas or their alleged 'victimhood'.

Because right now you're seeing everything through your own bias, and it's affecting you adversely in this forum. Stop ignoring their critique, because for the most part they're objectively describing the game well enough.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#205 - 2017-02-22 10:11:48 UTC
Just to drive home a point.

50M SP on this character, 45M SP on another yet I'm currently have Alpha status because I haven't paid CCP this month due to more pressing needs, like a gearbox rebuild.

Does it restrict the ships I can fly? Yes.
Does it restrict what I can do? Not really, I just have to do those things in ships I normally wouldn't use for the task at hand.

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Amojin
Doomheim
#206 - 2017-02-22 10:17:53 UTC
Breg Valkar wrote:

Please do not bring traditional F2P games into the mix. EVE is not and has never been anywhere near that..


Yeah, and this is another one I am sick to death of. Which do you think is harder? Playing my nerfed for the last three years restoration druid in world of warcraft, where at least they have the roles down pat, and the same number of players per team, or this clusterfuc** of asinine stupidity?

I see only two groups of people in all the pvp I have ever had, solo. Those that beat the **** out of me, or those that I could beat the hell out of, and just recall all my drones, and leave. An act of mercy, iow.

Middle ground? A lot of times, I run like hell, because I see a lot more coming to help him, and if my ECM drones broke the lock or my neut capped him out on the warp scram, I'm gone.

In warcraft, I never have to run. The teams are always balanced.

Like the Borg said to Janeway 'Our survival is your survival,' I say to my team. You have a few healers. Our survival is your survival. A few, just a few peels, and you'll all win.

This game? phht. Unless you are in with the right group, forget it - they'll happily watch you spend isk supporting them. WoW? Don't lose the gear, can talke chances.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#207 - 2017-02-22 10:18:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Amojin wrote:
See? And I'm the one that has to always let this go. UFP Wiz or no.
Nobody cares what you did in other games with different rules, it's irrelevant.

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Our mere philosophy malkes people think they can get away with whatever they want, no matter how bad, and we'll try to suck it up!
Wat™?

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Fortunately for you, the UFP was based on RL USA./mainstream western religion.
Nothing to be proud of TBH, neither are shining examples of humanity.

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Yeah, you'll get away with it, for what it's worth/ But you have outed yourself, and not everyone is as nice as I am.
That's just it, you're not nice at all, you come across as a selfish arse.

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Amojin
Doomheim
#208 - 2017-02-22 10:20:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Amojin
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Amojin wrote:
See? And I'm the one that has to always let this go. UFP Wiz or no.
Nobody cares what you did inother games with different rules, it's irrelevant.

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Our mere philosophy malkes people think they can get away with whatever they want, no matter how bad, and we'll try to suck it up!
Wat™?

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Fortunately for you, the UFP was based on RL USA./Christianity.
Nothing to be proud of TBH, neither are shining examples of humanity.

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Yeah, you'll get away with it, for what it's worth/ But you have outed yourself, and not everyone is as nice as I am.
That's just it, you're not nice at all, you come across as a selfish ********.


Ok. I'm sure the Islamic Extremists said that when they hauled into Syria to kill every last native Aramaic speaker left on earth.

Whatever excuse you need, guys!
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#209 - 2017-02-22 10:24:31 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Wut? Serioulsy, we have gone from game philosophy to this?

Maybe we should just have CCP emblazon your KMs with "tiny ****".



See? And I'm the one that has to always let this go. UFP Wiz or no. Our mere philosophy malkes people think they can get away with whatever they want, no matter how bad, and we'll try to suck it up!

Fortunately for you, the UFP was based on RL USA./Christianity. Yeah, you'll get away with it, for what it's worth/ But you have outed yourself, and not everyone is as nice as I am.


I don't care what your position is in any other game. The point is that you want to constrain plaers while I do not.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#210 - 2017-02-22 10:25:31 UTC
Amojin wrote:


Ok. I'm sure the Islamic Extremists said that when they hauled into Syria to kill every last native Aramaic speaker left on earth.

Whatever excuse you need, guys!


Seriously ISD...WTF?

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

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Amojin
Doomheim
#211 - 2017-02-22 10:26:40 UTC
Teckos Pech. wrote:


I don't care what your position is in any other game. The point is that you want to constrain plaers while I do not.



Do you ever lapse sub and play alpha? If not, you should, for a month, just to see what it's like. I'd be more inclined to take your word at face value if you paid your dues, so to speak.

Have you?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#212 - 2017-02-22 10:30:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Amojin wrote:
Teckos Pech. wrote:


I don't care what your position is in any other game. The point is that you want to constrain plaers while I do not.



Do you ever lapse sub and play alpha? If not, you should, for a month, just to see what it's like. I'd be more inclined to take your word at face value if you paid your dues, so to speak.

Have you?

My sub is lapsed, I'm currently an alpha.

It's no biggie.

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Amojin
Doomheim
#213 - 2017-02-22 10:32:48 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

My sub is lapsed, I'm currently an alpha.



So you've said. But I wasn't asking you....
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#214 - 2017-02-22 10:33:54 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Teckos Pech. wrote:


I don't care what your position is in any other game. The point is that you want to constrain plaers while I do not.



Do you ever lapse sub and play alpha? If not, you should, for a month, just to see what it's like. I'd be more inclined to take your word at face value if you paid your dues, so to speak.

Have you?



Just out of curosity...what does this has to do with anything?

Have you shifted your position from the OP to something else, that the people who are F2P are suffering somehow?

Have they considered playing a month as an Omega?

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Amojin
Doomheim
#215 - 2017-02-22 10:36:55 UTC
In other words, you have never played at anyting other than meta-game full stregth, Teckos?

If that is the case, are you qualified to hit me, on anything I have to say regarding F2P or racial restrictions, since you observe NEITHER?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#216 - 2017-02-22 10:37:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Amojin wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

My sub is lapsed, I'm currently an alpha.



So you've said. But I wasn't asking you....
You don't get to dictate who or what I reply to, such is the nature of forums.

Deal with it.

On a side note, if I was you I would refrain from posting anything further that references real world religions or politics; that kind of thing is a violation of the forum rules and generally results in ISD/CCP coming down on you like a ton of bricks.

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Amojin
Doomheim
#217 - 2017-02-22 10:40:02 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Amojin wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

My sub is lapsed, I'm currently an alpha.



So you've said. But I wasn't asking you....
You don't get to dictate who or what I reply to, such is the nature of forums.

Deal with it.

On a side note, if I was you I would refrain from posting anything further that references real world religions; that kind of thing is a violation of the forum rules and generally results in the ISD/CCP coming down on you like a ton of bricks.




No kidding. Rule 7. But when the dude that gave me masturbation advice was allowed to pass? Ya know what, if that's ok, and me telling you to be honest, kind, and decent, and to respect that Tamir Rice was murdered, that's not ok?

Well... It's not a nice place ya'll have, here, is it?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#218 - 2017-02-22 11:01:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Amojin wrote:
No kidding. Rule 7.
You're knowingly breaking the rules, have I got that right?

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But when the dude that gave me masturbation advice was allowed to pass?
He had a point, you're all about self gratification and sod what anybody else thinks

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Ya know what, if that's ok, and me telling you to be honest, kind, and decent
Try taking your own advice instead of being a hypocrite.

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Drop the real life political crap, it has no place here nor do we give a shite about your opinions on religion or politics.

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Well... It's not a nice place ya'll have, here, is it?
Stop shitting it up with your rule breaking bollocks and it might become one.

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Amojin
Doomheim
#219 - 2017-02-22 11:06:31 UTC
Jonah, the character you play may not care about these things.

But YOU, the player, DO, one way or another. Either you hate what I am about, or you agree with some of it, and your in-game skill is not here to help you. It's just you and me, in real life, talking ABOUT a game. Not BEING in a game.

In the game, I'm sure you'll win, if I can't get away. How much longer until that's not true, though? I have low skills, now, but in time, that will not be true. I have made a ****-ton of bad fits, and I learned something every time. How long is it going to be before your life looks like Captain Ransom's in that video?

Because the one thing I can guarantee you, sure as **** and the sun will rise tomorrow, I'm not joining you in ganking people, if that's your thing.

Those laurel leaves fade, dude. It's only a matter of time. Don't make enemies you don't have to?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#220 - 2017-02-22 11:33:00 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Jonah, the character you play may not care about these things.

But YOU, the player, DO, one way or another.
I don't give a damn about your politics or religious beliefs until you force them upon me.

Religion and politics are like having a penis, it's fine to have one, it's fine to be proud of it. When you get it out in public or inflict it on others without their consent we have a problem.


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Either you hate what I am about, or you agree with some of it, and your in-game skill is not here to help you. It's just you and me, in real life, talking ABOUT a game. Not BEING in a game.
You're talking about ruining the game for others via the medium of a sledgehammer wielded by CCP, we're telling you why that's a bad idea.

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In the game, I'm sure you'll win, if I can't get away. How much longer until that's not true, though? I have low skills, now, but in time, that will not be true.
Your character skills are irrelevant, it's your player skills that count.

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I have made a ****-ton of bad fits, and I learned something every time.
You've also made several bad posts, such a shame that you've failed to learn from them too.

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Because the one thing I can guarantee you, sure as **** and the sun will rise tomorrow, I'm not joining you in ganking people, if that's your thing.

Those laurel leaves fade, dude. It's only a matter of time. Don't make enemies you don't have to?
Ganking isn't my thing, I've done it a few times in the past for educational purposes but it holds no attraction for me. Other forms of spaceship violence are also not my thing, although they do make my chosen play style rather profitable.

I don't care about enemies, most of the enemies that I have in Eve are people who don't have the will to do anything about it, my friends on the other hand....


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