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You mean like wormholes with every connection being critical?
Bubbles give extra 4 seconds.


ftfy.

And yes, I'd rather be in hisec and play eve without dealing with losers who live in their mother's basements roaming only to get free kills on pve ships and running from everything resembling pvp. But hisec is dead, that's why I am in null.

Or, you know, become the proper little renter b***h you truly are and pay ISK to slave masters to rent in ****** systems where if you get tackled super blob can save you. BALANCE I THINK NOT CCP I PAY $$$ to mine in peace why do you do this.

I am not a renter, I am a proud owner of little piece of northern space I won from goons in my bomber. I do not pay anyone for it.

The problem is, entities without batphones want to rat and mine too, and that is getting incredibly difficult with those changes, to the point where a sign should be put up on eve NO RATTING AND MINING WITHOUT 5 FAX ALTS AND 50 TITANS BATPHONE ALLOWED.

Lower the materials/cost drastically and make the bubble only last as long as the person who deployed it is in the area/online/or downtime.

I agree with this. Materials shouldn't really be changed. The only stat changing is time. Just be mindful of what you're doing and you won't lose out on that isk. Makes you appreciate what you have a little more lol

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Yeah but the idea is that no high reward task should be risk free.
Ratting in null is very lucrative and therefore needs to be associated with some risk.
Therefore escaping, losing a ship or killing the attacker is a part of ratting (or actually any other eve activity) in nullsec, lowsec or even hisec. The greater the reward, the greater should be the risk.

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Well to me it looks like the previous topic was for the discussion, this one is to comment on the coming changes.
I would agree that 2 day decay on the best bubble is too low, but it's 2 weeks for the best one and 2 days on the one that costs 720k ISK in crafting mats/minerals. Medium t1 is 2,5 mil ISK. Large t1 is 9,2m ISK. That's almost nothing.

T2 is also fairly cheap: small - 3m, medium - 8m and large 18m in mats + the related invention costs. For 1 week of protection.

The best one (syndicate large) is also fairly cheap as it cost 8,8m in mats + 30 mil and 45k lp to the bp --- for the 2 week long warp bubble. And even less ISK and lp for medium or small one.

I think it should be 12 hours for t1, 24-48 hours for t2 and 48-92 hours for syndicate since they are so cheap to craft. And if you pick them up yourself they reset the timers.

You can earn enough ISK to place 20-30 bubbles in a couple of hours of ratting/mining with 1 account. Mining with rorq is more than 200m ISK an hour per account, ratting in the cheap VNI is 70m an hour per account. Moreover, you can redeploy those bubbles every now and then.



Look at the numbers above. They are already dirt cheap.

I personally believe that some of the nullsec are not to like this change for the rats they kill the shield wall be move and expire at time. and some of the nullsec will be unable to do so because some people out there in the nullsec don't have maps and I believe that our education like such as in the Drone Lands and the Detorid everywhere like such as Delve, and, I believe that they should learn to make accomodate the change, or take our education by the PvP and lose bubble and some ships in case they still find a rat. this should help the hunter, should help minimize the afk empire and should help the Stabber and the Interdiction, so we will be able to build up our future killboards for our clone children who do not hide behind shield bubble and hide behind intel. This is a change for better and we hope to make more kills but one maybe change like as been said before in the thread is make the time shorter to one day of more maybe 48 hours which is two days at all said give or take a few hours.

that is all really I am happy for this change mainly for my boys future killboard

Everything sounds great except the killmails for bubbles. How is cluttering the killboards with T1 small bubbles going to help anything? You might as well write a killmail every time I launch a bomb.

I think it's really to just raise awareness of them and make players be more accountable for them. Instead of just set it and forget it, there will be a negative impact on them or their corporation for doing so. It's more of a negative thing for stat whores, but I can see it as not being negative.

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1 week max. 2 weeks bubbles are basically inaccessible, and their cost with killmails would be a ****** magnet, so they cannot be used.
That's "almost nothing" for 2 days. Now since you're going to lose all your bubbles every 2 days, multiply 25 large bubbles (that is after downsizing it to "adapt to new changes", minimal for 1 constellation) by 15 to get a monthly cost and add 1 hour/day (2 hours every 2 days) of not making ISK to place them. Also plex to do it in neutral alt, otherwise the intel cost would reach stupid values. How much are we at? 1 bil per month plex, plus 250 million 25 large bubbles every 2 days (it only takes one camper to not let you bring your ship to redeploy them) - overall cost of 4.75 billion ISK per month, after downsizing your bubble network. With your proposal of 24 hours, the cost is at 8.5 billion ISK per month. Clearly you cannot into math.
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I don't think it's fair to say that the entire cost of a PLEX is calculated into this. If all you have that alt for is this, then you're doing eve wrong. Also, unless those bubbles get popped, all you have to do is maintain them. I think I read earlier, you can scoop them, then redeploy them? I think it's all about cleaning space up a bit, making people pay more attention to the bubbles they are placing and it adds more content.