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so i want to get into DED sites
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Jamie Munba
Tradex Inc
#1 - 2017-02-21 10:22:57 UTC
Hi folks,

as title suggests, i would like to get into nullsec ded sites, or maybe start in lowsec as i hear highsec is too contested.

I can fly a Tengu, all subsystems at 5, and decent missile skills.

my intention is to ninja them with a travel fit and mobile depot, is this do-able?

what sort of dps do i need to be dishing out and what tank is better? i see ppl using hams and others using hml. i dont mind a bit of a bling fit but nothing too ott.

thoughts and advice appreciated Big smile

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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#2 - 2017-02-21 11:35:22 UTC
It is doable, only one "but" missiles will took large portion of your cargohold.
For example I'm using 3500-4000 hams for DED 5, with used bonus, unbonused dmg will eat more. Higher DED will need more.
It's inefficient that way.

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
Jamie Munba
Tradex Inc
#3 - 2017-02-21 11:51:13 UTC
thanks for the reply, wasn't something I had actually considered. so if I said I would be looking at around 70m3 for ammo, with my combat fit and mobile depot, my available cargo would be pretty sparce. Can't get onto eve at the moment but iirc I'd be left with around 70m3 for loot..

In the past I have joined two renter corps in Null, and both times after not playing for a Cpl of weeks and the second time 6 days, I logged on to find the corp had packed up shop and moved, the first time I lost all my ships, managed to sell them to the new owners but lost over 700m in assets and the second time around 300m so I am loathed to do it again, and don't wish to have to commit to be online every single day making sure nothing serious is about to change.

This Is why I thought about ninja-ing the sites, but from the sounds of it I would have enough space to maybe loot one site? therefore as you say, pretty inefficient Straight

I trade for isk, risk ships for isk, it's all about the space pennies baby! Billionaire living, Trillionaire dreaming!!
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#4 - 2017-02-21 12:26:09 UTC
Jamie Munba wrote:
This Is why I thought about ninja-ing the sites, but from the sounds of it I would have enough space to maybe loot one site? therefore as you say, pretty inefficient Straight

I actually test run this in provi some time ago. Not worth it unless you carry a freighter full of ammo with you. Subsystems takes too much cargospace, missiles volume are twice high as ammo.
Where do you want to go?

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
Jamie Munba
Tradex Inc
#5 - 2017-02-21 12:40:48 UTC
Jeremiah Saken wrote:
Jamie Munba wrote:
This Is why I thought about ninja-ing the sites, but from the sounds of it I would have enough space to maybe loot one site? therefore as you say, pretty inefficient Straight

I actually test run this in provi some time ago. Not worth it unless you carry a freighter full of ammo with you. Subsystems takes too much cargospace, missiles volume are twice high as ammo.
Where do you want to go?



well my objective was to just run them as I find them scouting around the universe P although this sounds not possible now. although I can fly a dst, so if I could find somewhere in ns to stage out of, I wouldn't mind running a load of missiles down in one of those..

im not sure which of the sites are easier, is it guristas? I hear blood raiders are tough

I trade for isk, risk ships for isk, it's all about the space pennies baby! Billionaire living, Trillionaire dreaming!!
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#6 - 2017-02-21 13:04:09 UTC
Jamie Munba wrote:
im not sure which of the sites are easier, is it guristas? I hear blood raiders are tough

Tengu can do all of them, but optimal are guristas. Don't belive anyone telling you that tengu is versatile. It has EM hole in tank and kinetic lock. Try NPC null maybe?

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
Jamie Munba
Tradex Inc
#7 - 2017-02-21 13:17:06 UTC
I have found 2 systems with stations in my exploring stomping ground in guristas space, that I did not know were there Idea

any chance of a decent fit for gurista rats ? I did de-bling a fit that someone sent me, his fit was 5b, mine ended up around a bil.
fitting is not my strongest point in the game as never ran missions,not even lvl 1s What? I did mining then trade then exploration. ive travelled around loads and know how to avoid camps etc etc just struggle with fits, and all the fits I see online are old so possibly outdated..?

I trade for isk, risk ships for isk, it's all about the space pennies baby! Billionaire living, Trillionaire dreaming!!
Kaivarian Coste
It Came From Thera
#8 - 2017-02-21 13:51:28 UTC
Are you guys twins?
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#9 - 2017-02-21 15:12:49 UTC
Kaivarian Coste wrote:
Are you guys twins?

Yup, we share exploration passion.

Jamie Munba wrote:
I have found 2 systems with stations in my exploring stomping ground in guristas space, that I did not know were there Idea

any chance of a decent fit for gurista rats ? I did de-bling a fit that someone sent me, his fit was 5b, mine ended up around a bil.
fitting is not my strongest point in the game as never ran missions,not even lvl 1s What? I did mining then trade then exploration. ive travelled around loads and know how to avoid camps etc etc just struggle with fits, and all the fits I see online are old so possibly outdated..?

Link your fit.
Guristas region is Venal, check it on Dotlan.
DED list
here you got DED complexes list.

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2017-02-22 04:37:23 UTC
Jamie Munba wrote:
I have found 2 systems with stations in my exploring stomping ground in guristas space, that I did not know were there Idea

any chance of a decent fit for gurista rats ? I did de-bling a fit that someone sent me, his fit was 5b, mine ended up around a bil.
fitting is not my strongest point in the game as never ran missions,not even lvl 1s What? I did mining then trade then exploration. ive travelled around loads and know how to avoid camps etc etc just struggle with fits, and all the fits I see online are old so possibly outdated..?

You can use those old fits as a basic starting point and then fine tune em in a ship fitting app with your skills imported. There's a few different 3rd party fitting apps available. Since I'm old school I still use EFT (Eve Fitting Tool).


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Jonas Staal
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2017-02-22 10:30:35 UTC
If you want to start doing DED sites, I suggest not starting in Guristas space.
Jamie Noreven
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2017-02-23 19:15:07 UTC
so here is the fit i put together from the one i was sent, mines is cheaper

tengu

fuel catalyst
accelerated ejection bay
augmented cap reservoir
amplification node
dissolution sequencer

dominion ballistic control system x4

federation navy 10mn ab
gistum b type medium shield booster x2
gist b type shield boost amplifier x2
pithum x type explosive deflection field (think i don't need this for guristas)

hml t2 x6
t2 scourge fury heavy missile

medium cap control circuit t2 x2
medium cap control circuit t1
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#13 - 2017-02-24 08:59:08 UTC
Personally I believe that Low sec is a better bet. The sites are way faster to run, No need for the Nullification Sub and the drops are on par with if not much better than Null. (Invuls, EANM ect)

Big issue is that Gurista Low Sec can be pretty busy and competition is high.