EVE General Discussion

Against bumpers you can fit an 500mn mwd, what brings you back faster back to the belt. Or circle a can or another ship to prevent the most bumping attempts.
Of course that makes bumpers angry, what leads to local rants.

More content, yay.

Orca got a rebalance, mining drone wise you get 27.8 m3/s while the tanked hulk gets 28.3 m3/s. It doesn't factor in flight time though but still a great yield for the orca.

A tanked hulk - that's a good one.
Nobody flys a hulk for its tank. I know a hulk fleet around. He never mines more then 2 or 3 hours a day. So he speeds up at maximum.
I mine 3 days per week, 10 - 12 hours per day. Sometimes more. I make a lot of ice with my 5 tanked skiffs. Managing Hulks would burn me out fast. And Macks are not fast or strong enough.

Right. It is like that, what Shepard Book said about the operative. Their faith in their mission makes them dangerous.

Even a medium tanked skiff can die fast in hs. Go to zkillboard.com and search for banzabanza.

If it's a ruse - well played.
If it's legit - well, it's not like they'll really be missed in high-sec...

Oh Drac, you don't disappoint. I can smell your butthurt from here. You should go wipe that.

As to CODE., I could care less that it is CODE. Could be Goons, PL or even BoB for all that it matters. It's just hialrious how desperately some people want this to be true and have been quick to claim the death of CODE. because CODE. said so.

I get that you are just playing the metagame Dracvlad and thus you have your narrative, but don't go all Baghdad Bob on us with it in the face of the facts. The killboards report that the CODE. alliance had its 6th best month ever in terms of number of kills last month, coming off of the 4th most number of kills in December. The activity of the alliance is still near or at peak, and while I can't say if your neck of the woods has seen less Code enforcement in recent months, the numbers say the alliance is chugging along just fine, as always.

Shae's point on this seems legit. The response to this "event" shows how relevant and important the New Order is in this game. The constant people posting to celebrate the (clearly fake) demise of an organization, and posting in this thread and on reddit about how happy they are that finally someone "did something about those bad people", or how irrelevant that organization was/is, speaks volumes on just how relevant it really is. Way more relevant that the hundreds of lame and irrelevant corps and alliance that don't do anything of note. Replace CODE with any of these irrelevant ones in the same reddit thread and you would just get a collective shrugging of the shoulders, and perhaps a yawn before it dropped off the front page. Only a few organizations have as much relevance as CODE. and would generate such interest.

This manufactured drama has highlighted a pervasive misunderstanding of the Code, CODE. and the New Order of Highsec that if you understand, would recognize that nothing was ever in jeopardy. CODE. is just one alliance that enforces the document known as the New Halaima Code of Conduct (AKA The Code), as part of the New Order of Highsec. CODE. could implode or be superseded by another alliance in the loose and decentralized organization known as the New Order, yet the ideas documented in The Code would keep on being enforced. I would venture to say at this point, they are so entrenched and part of New Eden they are beyond even James 315 himself (forgive my sacrilege!). The Code is forever. It is a living manifestation of the game CCP has built. The Code isn't going anywhere regardless of some squabbling over pixels or numbers in a database, whether the squabbling is real or not.

There is a reason they say the Code always wins, 'cause it always does. There is no level of damage one can inflict on the New Order that would stop it, and given it exists as primarily an idea, and an idea that enjoys privileged status with CCP at that, the Code is invulnerable. This yin is in contrast to the yang of Anti-Ganking movement, also an idea, which seems to always fail, non-stop, and daily, largely because they set out on an impossible task mostly for unclear moral reasons, emotion, or more often out of butthurt. While AG could demonstrate more competence (especially if they got over their fear of losing ships), they can never win but they, like the New Order, also cannot be headshot and killed given the decentralized and ideological nature of the movement.

Really though, it is just a game. Eve is a great game that can produce such high level, emergent game play, but it seems to happen less and less as the player base (and developers) keep pushing for more safety, and favouring consensual, honourable PvP over the raw ingredients for drama like this. While I will continue to support the New Order and do my best to help create content and interesting player stories like this one, I just wish such emergent events were more frequent elsewhere in the game.

Black Pedro delivers.....

You're welcome.

Edit. I mean f**k code.