EVE General Discussion

I actually viewed his reply as both funny and appropriate.

My statement was done as friendly jest, not as cynical sarcasm. I thought that was apparent due to the 'wink' in my posted reply.



DMC

No indeed, Salvos; but according to CCP you need to turn bumping and ganking into a business if you are to take it to the levels attained by the New Order of Highsec (your 'CODE').

At the start of the movement, in 2012, James 315 had detailed discussions with the GMs in order to hammer out a workable model for the business. What you see now is part of the solution.

The New Order has never been confined to the CODE. Alliance - which it pre-dated by quite some time.

What people forget (if they ever knew...) is that the whole thing was started by a lone capsuleer bumping miners in an asteroid belt. It's not bumping or ganking which grabs the attention - they're quite unremarkable by themselves - it's the harnessing of those activities to a solid business model which - however you view it - is now known (and loved, or reviled) across the whole of New Eden.

That is quite an achievement from the actions of one man.

This recent business can do the movement no harm, for we've never depended on stockpiled loot for our success. It's the willingness of like-minded women and men to go out there and make a difference in Highsec which has sustained us throughout, and which will continue to sustain us, in the face of all adversity.

Too perfect!

At least something interesting happened.

I didn't say it was good content, what I said was that was all that was left.


Wrong, can flipping died when CCP gave a built in ore bay. It might still happen but not enough to sustain a pirate population.

Now, dont get me wrong... I am not knocking pirates here. But your statement there grabbed my attention.

I do not feel anything can "sustain" pirates, because there seem to be far too many. Sure, sure, sure. There are noobs, industrialists, miners, scammers... But there are also a simply massive amount of people playing the bad guy. Playing the villain.


All MMOs seem to face this issue. Anytime a teenager can role-play the bad person, they will. Be it your Horde, Empire, Pirate... What have you. EVE has it bad because there cannot be a "three lions for every infant gazelle" ratio. It just cant work.

So the gazelles get a buff. The lions get a nerf.
And the tears start.

Basically brother, you cant honestly wave the "HTFU" flag at the fraction that didnt decide to "be da bad gui" for not wanting to log in and get gate-ganked.


(Now that I think about it, crying about nerfs to your playstyle is pretty ANTI-HTFU... No matter who is doing it.)

Gazelles? Where do you see Gazelles? All I see are Lemmings...

Miners didnt HTFU, they got their challenges removed. Its not crying to point out a lot of content has been lost over the years as CCP have catered to people craving more CCP enforced safety. This also means that they also removed more or less everything that might have been interesting. Just look at the content they get to look forwards to, chomping simi-AFK on rocks and refining said rocks or just selling to a buyer.

Its a sorry state when the likes of CODE was all they had and even that looks to be gone now.

Cause and effect, simple stuff really.

That you chose not to war dec stuff, or that you chose not to can flip because you go suspect so you can be shot by more capable people is your issue in terms of content.

The Rorqual is going to have a much greater effect on people mining in hisec then CODE ever could have due to the massive yield possible from these ships and the impact on the market, but that is still content...

Its all content friend. Someone is getting ******, and someone is crying about it. The players just change hands.
(And the guy not getting ****** laughs, like the pendulum will never swing back.)