EVE General Discussion

I want to learn to pvp and get into big fleet fights in nullsec. Can you help me?

Are you assuming no Omega would ever fly a Gnosis?

Omegas have better ships to fly

Actually when i'm thinking about it.... I'm not sure if i ever seen Gnosis at all.... Maybe once in Dodixie used as bait for noobs.... But not as real PvP or PVE machine in our 0.0 area.....

This is not accurate. You get a kill mark for any kill for which

1) You get a final blow (typically you should also receive a kill mail.)
2) The target is a ship that is not a capsule, shuttle, or rookie ship.
3) You and the target pilot are not in the same corp.

Kill marks on ships should usually update immediately, however it's possible for them not to update immediately, in which case they should update on a session change (docking/jumping) or receiving another kill mark.

If you kill a player who is playing as an Alpha clone and meets the requirements listed above, you should receive a kill mark for it.

Hang out in Rookie Help--three people there:

1. New players less than 1 month old.
2. Vets hanging out to help the new players.
3. Character transfers that forget to close the channel.

So how do you determine the difference between 1 and 2-3?

Just say something incorrect in the channel, and all the 2s and 3s will bite your ******* head off.

As for Alpha, Pancakes (EvE Gate Link) have "Griddlecat" fleet doctrine.

Click on the thread subject to see linked pics:

Screenshots from Pancakes newest fleet doctrine.

Pancakes Griddlecats claim their first cap kill!

It's easy to determine that someone is an alpha if they are flying an omega ship?

That's idiotic.

Actually, you seem to not understand. How does that answer the actual question asked?

The actual question was "is there an easy way to determine which players are Alpha at a casual glance"

Knowing someone is Omega does not help easily determine an Alpha.

If the question had been "is there an easy way to determine which players are Omega at a casual glance"?, then Salvos's answer would have been one way to 100% know. There are 3 at least easy ways at a glance to know if someone is Omega:

1. Flying an Omega ship
2. Flying an alpha ship, but of a different race to the character
3. Checking the turrets/launchers and seeing T2 fitted

But none of these are an answer to the question asked.

There is certainly low intelligence at work here DMC. It's yours in this case for defending an idiotic response that answers a different question.

But it's ok. Not everyone can be intelligent enough to understand what an answer to the actual question would look like.

Hint: there isn't a way to easily determine at a glance, the alpha state of any character. CCP are adding an API end point to assist Corps/Alliances assess the ability of members to fly doctrine ships, but they haven't done so yet. Even when that is done, the information will be accessible with API access, not public.

It is unusual, if you have access to T2 weapons, to fit T1 instead. It is done, but usually not. So the best guess you could make would be if they are flying an alpha ship, of the same race as the character (or Sunesis/Gnosis) and they have T1 weapons fit. It's likely (but not 100% certain) that they are an alpha.

And 'definitely not alpha' is not what the question asked (see the edit above).

If only it were a 2 sided coin, then I'd agree.

However, since you seem to think it is a good answer to the question, at a glance, which of these characters are alpha:

1. Gallente flying an Incursus
2. Gallente flying an Anshar
3. Minmatar flying a Rifter

These are all characters of mine in their current ships. If this answers the question just fine (your words), then which at a glance are alpha?