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CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2017-02-16 06:42:59 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:
Should i trust anyone? yesterday i was on my way to meet up with a friend of mine that ive played other games with, but when i was just about to jump through a random person private messaged me saying not to jump through because they were going to kill me and my machariel. Im wondering if i should trust anyone now, should i, or should i stick to playing with my brother irl?
Im a fairly new player, only got about 100 hours, but i have a machariel because my generous brother lent me 550mill so i could get started (im going to pay him back). Thankyou for your replies, its very helpful :D
Just need advice on what i should do, and what i should look out for. Thanks!

Hello and welcome to Eve.

I think you did the right thing, it's always better to be safe than sorry for not listening to your inner voice of doubt. Trust is a commodity that's earned over time, not to be given out freely to strangers.

As for your ship, make sure you have the Core Fitting Skills trained up to max, fit up one specific type of defensive tank (shield or armor), never let Autopilot fly your ship (always do manual warp to gate / jump option) and always be ready to warp out if anybody suspicious lands on grid with you.

Good luck to you, may you have a long and rewarding career here in Eve.



DMC

Thanks :D also whats DMC mean
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#22 - 2017-02-16 08:44:14 UTC
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:


Thanks :D also whats DMC mean


his name

Just Add Water
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2017-02-16 10:31:54 UTC
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Having the character skills to fly the ship is not the same as having the actual skills needed to fly the ship properly, the latter tend to come from experience.

Eve is a game where the relationship between big and better depends on you rather than the gear.

Ah okay, what skills should i get/skill up to be able to fly the ship properly and well?

You never should be waiting for skills to train in this game but you also should not be trying to make up for lack of skills and experience with faction and / or deadspace ships / modules. Also Large ships and weapons take much longer to train than small. Further a pirate faction ship takes twice as long to train up since you have two racial ship skills to train.

For the above reasons and many more we will typically tell new players to work on getting a good solid base of generic / core / base ship skills up before moving into large ships. It would not be a terrible idea to train an alt strait into battleships but for your first and only character it probably won't work out well.

So in that perspective you want to look at any skills that increase your ability to fit or other skills that increase your abilities with all or many ships. So in the gunnery section that would be things that increase range or tracking or rate of fire or damage etc... across all turrets not just the large ones. Then when you have a good solid base and enough experience to feel like you have an idea of what you are doing then move into large ships.

The two main problems with large ships are the increased expense slowing learning and the increased training time slowing skill training.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2017-02-16 11:13:29 UTC
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:
ergherhdfgh wrote:
You are going to have to trust some people in this game and you are going to have that trust violated at times. That just goes with any endeavor that involves working with other humans. You will have to decide when to trust people and when not to. You will not always be correct in your choices but that's just part of it.


CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:

Im a fairly new player, only got about 100 hours, but i have a machariel because my generous brother lent me 550mill so i could get started (im going to pay him back).


This right here is the real mistake. NEVER FLY WHAT YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO COMFORTABLY REPLACE! Maybe your brother can afford to replace a Machariel easily but clearly you can not.

In order to learn in this game you need to take chances and make mistakes and learn from them. If you are flying cheap ships you can afford to shrug off lessons easily. If you are flying something very expensive you will be afraid to loose it and thus fly overly cautiously and learn very little.

IMHO the guys that were going to blow up your Machariel to teach you a lesson would probably be doing you a favor had they succeeded. Experience in this game is earn by actual players and not racked up in some easily quantifiable means by a character. You can not buy your way to success in this game. If you ask me your brother is hurting you not helping you. If you brother wanted to help you I think that you would be better served by being given a lot of cheap ships and told to loose them all and require glorious loss mails to chart your progress.

the main thing im afraid of is having my capsule killed

This goes back to not flying in what you can not afford to comfortably loose. If you are afraid to loose your clone then you have implants way too expensive for where you are at.

It really sounds to me like your brother is not helping you out by giving you isk. He's pushing you into things before your time and it's all on stuff that you have not earned through personal experience. My guess is that if you don't separate yourself from your brother's easy isk that you won't last long in this game.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule and I could be wrong on this one but that is just my two cents on the topic.

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2017-02-16 12:50:12 UTC
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:

Thanks :D also whats DMC mean

DMC is the large letters in my name which are my initials in real life. When I first created my character 8+ years ago, players were only allowed to have 2 names for their character so I made sure my real life initials were included in the name.

Over the years I've had players say I shouldn't sign my forum posts and to them I've always said it's not my signature. It's my initials which makes it a bit more personal without being overly formal. Also it's much easier to type and say DMC compared to spelling or saying DeMichael Crimson.

By the way, here's a link to a reply I posted listing the Core Fitting Skills.



DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2017-02-17 00:18:15 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:
ergherhdfgh wrote:
You are going to have to trust some people in this game and you are going to have that trust violated at times. That just goes with any endeavor that involves working with other humans. You will have to decide when to trust people and when not to. You will not always be correct in your choices but that's just part of it.


CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:

Im a fairly new player, only got about 100 hours, but i have a machariel because my generous brother lent me 550mill so i could get started (im going to pay him back).


This right here is the real mistake. NEVER FLY WHAT YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO COMFORTABLY REPLACE! Maybe your brother can afford to replace a Machariel easily but clearly you can not.

In order to learn in this game you need to take chances and make mistakes and learn from them. If you are flying cheap ships you can afford to shrug off lessons easily. If you are flying something very expensive you will be afraid to loose it and thus fly overly cautiously and learn very little.

IMHO the guys that were going to blow up your Machariel to teach you a lesson would probably be doing you a favor had they succeeded. Experience in this game is earn by actual players and not racked up in some easily quantifiable means by a character. You can not buy your way to success in this game. If you ask me your brother is hurting you not helping you. If you brother wanted to help you I think that you would be better served by being given a lot of cheap ships and told to loose them all and require glorious loss mails to chart your progress.

the main thing im afraid of is having my capsule killed

This goes back to not flying in what you can not afford to comfortably loose. If you are afraid to loose your clone then you have implants way too expensive for where you are at.

It really sounds to me like your brother is not helping you out by giving you isk. He's pushing you into things before your time and it's all on stuff that you have not earned through personal experience. My guess is that if you don't separate yourself from your brother's easy isk that you won't last long in this game.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule and I could be wrong on this one but that is just my two cents on the topic.

Yeah i see your point, well i cant use my mach atm anyway because i just moved to my brothers null sec system, to mine with them and get myself more isk so i can comfortably fly bigger ships. left me mach 40 jumps away though so im practicly starting from the start again :P just MY 2 cents tho here.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#27 - 2017-02-17 01:19:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
On the subject of trust.

Trust in Eve is a valuable commodity, so valuable in fact that the standing joke is you can't even trust your own alts.

There is actually only one person in Eve that can be trusted implicitly, and that is Chribba.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#28 - 2017-02-17 01:25:47 UTC
You can trust me.

@lunettelulu7
Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2017-02-17 01:30:26 UTC
Lulu Lunette wrote:
You can trust me.
To do what?

P

I don't burn bridges, I merely steal a bolt a day.
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2017-02-17 01:34:03 UTC
Quinn Hatfield wrote:
Lulu Lunette wrote:
You can trust me.
To do what?

P

To kill someone
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#31 - 2017-02-17 01:37:31 UTC
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:
Quinn Hatfield wrote:
Lulu Lunette wrote:
You can trust me.
To do what?

P

To kill someone
Class dismissed. Big smile

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2017-02-17 01:39:26 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:
Quinn Hatfield wrote:
Lulu Lunette wrote:
You can trust me.
To do what?

P

To kill someone
Class dismissed. Big smile

*School ends* XD
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#33 - 2017-02-17 02:23:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:
*School ends* XD
Nope.

That was your primer, school is about to start.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#34 - 2017-02-17 02:30:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Ajem Hinken
The only thing you can trust a person to do in EvE is to make ISK or have fun... generally at your expense, especially when you're left as a molten pile of slag.

That said, I've trusted many people, even those with -10 standing to me, and I haven't gotten blown up. Mostly because autopilot to a preferred station in the system is my panic button. And because I generally trust them until they get within ~14 AU of me. (AKA my D-Scan range.)

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6875494#post6875494 - Ship mounted explosives. Because explosions and Jita chaos.
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2017-02-17 03:13:24 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:
*School ends* XD
Nope.

That was your primer, school is about to start.

Nice gifs XD
Keno Skir
#36 - 2017-02-17 17:54:33 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:

Thanks :D also whats DMC mean

DMC is the large letters in my name which are my initials in real life. When I first created my character 8+ years ago, players were only allowed to have 2 names for their character so I made sure my real life initials were included in the name.

Over the years I've had players say I shouldn't sign my forum posts and to them I've always said it's not my signature. It's my initials which makes it a bit more personal without being overly formal. Also it's much easier to type and say DMC compared to spelling or saying DeMichael Crimson.

By the way, here's a link to a reply I posted listing the Core Fitting Skills.



DMC


Tbh they're saying you shouldn't sign your posts because it's pointless not because it's formal. You and the rest of us all have our names clearly displayed next to every post. Writing the full name would be even more rediculous.. but either hurts that little bit at the back of my head ;)

Keno Skir (EvE Player) (EvE Online That Is) ( ^ I wrote that) (These are the EvE online forums) (All this repeated info should make my post seem way more personal) (KS are my chars initials but not my real life ones, which are BCP) (Sweeeet) Pirate

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aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#37 - 2017-02-17 20:21:41 UTC
The answer to your question is NO!!! never trust anyone you don't know in RL. You WILL get burned. EVE is the ultimate sandbox for bullies, griefers and people who wish to take advantage of others. Their typical response would be dumb things like I did you a favor, its how you learn, blah, blah.
Also never buy from local, or accept contracts or trades unless you have read them very carefully.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2017-02-18 01:23:14 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:

Thanks :D also whats DMC mean

DMC is the large letters in my name which are my initials in real life. When I first created my character 8+ years ago, players were only allowed to have 2 names for their character so I made sure my real life initials were included in the name.

Over the years I've had players say I shouldn't sign my forum posts and to them I've always said it's not my signature. It's my initials which makes it a bit more personal without being overly formal. Also it's much easier to type and say DMC compared to spelling or saying DeMichael Crimson.

By the way, here's a link to a reply I posted listing the Core Fitting Skills.



DMC


Tbh they're saying you shouldn't sign your posts because it's pointless not because it's formal. You and the rest of us all have our names clearly displayed next to every post. Writing the full name would be even more rediculous.. but either hurts that little bit at the back of my head ;)

Keno Skir (EvE Player) (EvE Online That Is) ( ^ I wrote that) (These are the EvE online forums) (All this repeated info should make my post seem way more personal) (KS are my chars initials but not my real life ones, which are BCP) (Sweeeet) Pirate

Guess I didn't explain it sufficiently enough.

I prefer to be called DMC and despite what others may think or say I will continue to initial all my posted replies in these forums.


DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#39 - 2017-02-18 01:41:10 UTC  |  Edited by: MadMuppet
The answer to your question is, am I willing to lose all that I put forward here? I have two ships, a few million isk, and a desire to get better at the game. You will blow up, you will lose ships. The trick is to know if you can:
A: Recover?
B: How long will that take?
C: Remember that this is just a video game? (hint: if this game feels like a job, anD that is easy to do, IT IS NOT!)

Tonight my dumb *** mis-clicked on a wormhole while watching YouTube on the other screen and thought it was a gala event site. Blindly I targeted the red things because I was too engrossed in that YouTube video... then I fired at the red thing in my experimental passively shielded Machariel. Only after a causal glance, expecting cruisers to spawn did I realize my stupidity... Those are Drifter Battleships! Webbed?!! Scrammed??!!! OH SH_(pop).

Insurance payment notice

floating in a pod (and spamming the warp button because Drifters are reported to pop pods too)

Yes, I screwed up. Yes I lost a half billion isk. (You older folks remember when the Marcharial was billion isk ship? Pepperage Farms does!) .. but am I mad?

Nope.

A: I screwed up. I admit it
B: did I lose a lot of isk? Yes.
C: Can I get it back? Yes.
D: DID I HAVE FUN!?!?... Actually yes. I laughed my @$$ off.
E: Who's fault is it? Say it... SAY IT! .

mine

I love this game.

I know I can get another ship. If all your stuff gets blown up in this game, learn from it.

I know you'll be mad, but it happens. Look at your keyboard, look at your mouse, then look at your screen.

IT IS A VIDEO GAME

Now get back in your rookie ship and start over. It isn't the destination, it is the journey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBzqOa9y02I

This message brought to you by Experience(tm). When common sense fails you, experience will come to the rescue. Experience(tm) from the makers of CONCORD.

"If you are part of the problem, you will be nerfed." -MadMuppet
Keno Skir
#40 - 2017-02-19 09:05:08 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima wrote:

Thanks :D also whats DMC mean

DMC is the large letters in my name which are my initials in real life. When I first created my character 8+ years ago, players were only allowed to have 2 names for their character so I made sure my real life initials were included in the name.

Over the years I've had players say I shouldn't sign my forum posts and to them I've always said it's not my signature. It's my initials which makes it a bit more personal without being overly formal. Also it's much easier to type and say DMC compared to spelling or saying DeMichael Crimson.

By the way, here's a link to a reply I posted listing the Core Fitting Skills.



DMC


Tbh they're saying you shouldn't sign your posts because it's pointless not because it's formal. You and the rest of us all have our names clearly displayed next to every post. Writing the full name would be even more rediculous.. but either hurts that little bit at the back of my head ;)

Keno Skir (EvE Player) (EvE Online That Is) ( ^ I wrote that) (These are the EvE online forums) (All this repeated info should make my post seem way more personal) (KS are my chars initials but not my real life ones, which are BCP) (Sweeeet) Pirate

Guess I didn't explain it sufficiently enough.

I prefer to be called DMC and despite what others may think or say I will continue to initial all my posted replies in these forums.


DMC


Mans gotta do what a mans gotta :)

Black Lanterns Blog <- Read my ramblings -.-

250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <---
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