Intergalactic Summit

Not to be a killjoy, but what does this have to do with the OP?

Ok, just wanted to confirm that we were indeed off track, and that no points valid to the topic were being made.




Please continue.

I know all of you bleeding hearts wish that there was some sort of wonderful aid that could be applied, but literally every government in the cluster has made the right decision and cut off all of the possibly infected people. It's terrible but the alternative is much much worse. There is no aid at this point. There may never be.

If you really want to help, use those big capsuleer brains of yours to figure out who spread this thing.

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize asking the conclusion of the threads actual topic meant I actually shed a tear about it. Its not something I'm happy to hear about but also something I'm incapable of actually assisting in, logistically or strategically. Maybe before you jump to conclusions on my intent you use those big capsuleer brains of yours and pick up reading comprehension. It quite obviously wasn't a request to help.

Not everything is about you sweetie.

actually addressing your points:

1) I doubt the perpetrators live in the same systems as where the attacks occured. Staging assets there is no better an idea than staging assets anywhere else. Any organization prepared for combat already has assets in place and the miracle of faster than light travel will let them enact retribution rather quickly if they choose.

2) I have no problems with providing humanitarian aid to such populations except I'm not welcome in 1/3rd of the affected systems. And really if a planet can't survive without one of their tools for orbital access, is that really the kyonoke's fault? Or mine? (probably, Grr Amarr!) No, it's the local government's fault for poor civil planning. Seriously, some space faring civilization (or capsuleer alliance) could come by and just that that one piece of infrastructure and you'd be at their mercy!

3) Good luck with that. I doubt any government would trust capsuleers with something clearly everyone fears. Let's say they did, how do you propose preparing for such an eventuality? Moving people and equipment to an arbitrary location? You're asking people to prepare to research data that does not exist or they may never have access to. Such a proposal is useless. Feel free to gather the greatest Minmatar minds and have them twiddle their thumbs though. We won't mind.

If there's anything more important in this cluster than me and my ego, I want it hunted down and shot.



You seemed to miss the containment of quarantine breaches part, but I suppose falling back to cherrypicking was all you had there. It's also about protecting these sites from potential external threats. I can assure you that the deployment of any significant combat assets across New Eden is something we are very familiar with at this point, and having prepared staging areas (particularly when at least one system in question doesn't even have stations) beforehand is a significant aid in this regard.



There's more to humanitarian aid than merely survival. Muttokon II will survive just fine without our help, but that doesn't mean they haven't been affected by this. The quarantine and loss of a main logistics path is hardly fatal for the population, but any bottleneck like that getting choked off will have impacts on any world and usually the ones that are worst off will feel the effects most strongly. I suppose providing aid to the less fortunate is not a thing you're familiar with, if this is so difficult to grasp.



Of course they'd never share the actual speck. That'd be ridiculous. What they might share across New Eden is research data pertaining to the speck. This is more than sufficient for significant research efforts towards all manner of beneficial purposes. We have prepared for this potential eventuality by setting up RnD facilities and having research equipment stocked at the location. It's not like neither the people nor the equipment is sitting idle. At the time of writing, I received a report about a potential breakthrough in neuropeptide isolation (relevant in this case due to the seeming relation the speck may have to prion diseases, and neuropeptide expression being known to be affected by such) from one of the teams working in the facility right now.

You may feel like these are useless efforts, but the simple fact is that they are cheap (a few billion isk has covered the facilities and another couple of billion covered huge stocks of supplies, assets, crew and combat vessels), takes little effort for capsuleers, and they have the potential to prove instrumental. So there really is no reason not to spend the nigh infinitesimal time and resources it takes to do such a thing.

Or is the Pendulum Wars perhaps a more deserving target for our ISK and the lives of crew?

Miss Del'thul:

I did ignore quarantine breakers in my initial response to your post. However this was not a complete oversight. As your own multi-day vigil over the afflicted area noted, we are blocked from detecting all civilian structures and traffic. Capsuleers are not currently an effective blockade method.

Secondly I'm not opposed to aid to unafflicted populations even if the aid is not necessary for their survival. But if it isn't, I'm sure there are better uses of capsuleer time and resources.

Third: I maintain my point that spurring directionless research in the hope that it serendipitously assists in combating the kyonoke pathogen is likely worthless in regards to that goal.

I said nothing about the pendulum wars but since you dangled that particular canard, yes. Both the Republic and Empire have encouraged capsuleer participation in that conflict. Presumably this is for economic reasons, I don't particularly understand that decision making process but don't question it either. Neither government has asked for, or commanded capsuleer help regarding the Kyonoke outbreak. In this regard, contributing to the pendulum wars is a more worthwhile endeavor for a loyalist of any nation.

This would be like them saying "No, we won't give you the weapon. But here are the blueprints for it..."

This situation has not changed who I am or what I think of the Empire's lickspittles, Ayallah. That should not come as a surprise, whether you agree or disagree with my stance on such blind obedience to tyrants and dogma.

... when you called me out personally? This isn't a very difficult timeline to follow, but I can get some crayons and draw you a map of it.