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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#41 - 2017-02-16 02:27:56 UTC
I have to agree with a Goon here... I feel SOO dirty!@!UghShocked


Think of it as being in the customs portion of an airport when you are ALREADY in the country. Technically you are NOT in the country itself and can be rejected by a computer saying "NO!" when your passport is scanned or even detained as you are going up to the queue by customs or other real world officers. It sucks as you are out your flight, possibly baggage and time in jail or even death in some cases. So I would have to agree that though this DOES suck it is working as intended.


As for the courier contract thing that DOES need to be changed. Simply put and done. Change the permissions to allow it to finish and give docking rights to the courier pilot themselves until it is finished that simply cannot be revoked. The formality of the contract itself should give at least some modicum of "legality" in a sense. Never minding there are lots of other ways to courier scam anyway but in light of this I think that something along these lines should be enforced.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#42 - 2017-02-16 02:43:28 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
I have to agree with a Goon here... I feel SOO dirty!@!UghShocked

Trust me - it washes off...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2017-02-16 03:07:12 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
As for the courier contract thing that DOES need to be changed. Simply put and done. Change the permissions to allow it to finish and give docking rights to the courier pilot themselves until it is finished that simply cannot be revoked. The formality of the contract itself should give at least some modicum of "legality" in a sense. Never minding there are lots of other ways to courier scam anyway but in light of this I think that something along these lines should be enforced.

That would not be a smart move. All it would take to make sure I retain docking rights to a citadel would be a courier contract to that station, that I can make myself with an alt. As long as I have that contract, they can't lock me out. Sounds broken.

Or do you suggest that only the citadel owner should be able to put up courier contracts to their citadel? That would be even more detrimental to the courier business, would it not?
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#44 - 2017-02-16 03:16:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternus8lux8lucis
Neuntausend wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
As for the courier contract thing that DOES need to be changed. Simply put and done. Change the permissions to allow it to finish and give docking rights to the courier pilot themselves until it is finished that simply cannot be revoked. The formality of the contract itself should give at least some modicum of "legality" in a sense. Never minding there are lots of other ways to courier scam anyway but in light of this I think that something along these lines should be enforced.

That would not be a smart move. All it would take to make sure I retain docking rights to a citadel would be a courier contract to that station, that I can make myself with an alt. As long as I have that contract, they can't lock me out. Sounds broken.

Or do you suggest that only the citadel owner should be able to put up courier contracts to their citadel? That would be even more detrimental to the courier business, would it not?

Good reexploit rebuttal... dang noo!!! Arthur this had BETTER wash off!!Twisted



EDIT

Thinking about it a bit and the way that this could be done still is that the owner of citadel can reject/fail the contract. This would then put the scamming aspect in reverse that the contract creator could be screwed over by the owner cancelling the contract itself and thereby forcing the contract creator to foot the collateral bill as well as if there are actual goods in the contract itself in the hands of the courier that they can actually open and steal. Ironically it would reverse who would be scammed, the contract creator rather than the courier. And places the trust aspect between the contract creator and the citadel owner and not on the courier themselves.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2017-02-16 03:56:35 UTC
That may not actually be such a bad idea. It would also be much more interesting to unwrap those items, than just collect that bland old money as collateral.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#46 - 2017-02-16 04:01:39 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
That may not actually be such a bad idea. It would also be much more interesting to unwrap those items, than just collect that bland old money as collateral.

Damnit - I'm agreeing with you again... It's not hard to imagine that bribes would soon be finding their way to the eager hands of station owners to "look the other way". Even a bidding war between contractor and contractee... This whole thing is a real can of snakes...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#47 - 2017-02-16 04:09:58 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Neuntausend wrote:
That may not actually be such a bad idea. It would also be much more interesting to unwrap those items, than just collect that bland old money as collateral.

Damnit - I'm agreeing with you again... It's not hard to imagine that bribes would soon be finding their way to the eager hands of station owners to "look the other way". Even a bidding war between contractor and contractee... This whole thing is a real can of snakes...

This is what I was thinking of exactly. As it allows the courier to actually negotiate and interact with the owner to fail it on purpose for various reasons for a fee, or even agree on a fee and then scam both the creator and the owner.

Ultimately it would give everyone involved in the contract schema; contract creator, courier and citadel owner, of scamming someone in the courier chain itself all for different reasons.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
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