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What do you think is wrong with EVE?

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Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2017-02-11 07:48:09 UTC
Mining
UI
Better NPE

"Playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy." -Jonah Gravenstein

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#22 - 2017-02-11 07:52:40 UTC
Hiasa Kite wrote:

Better NPE

The better NPE is what is wrong with EVE?

Jeez. There's been little bit positive feedback on the improved NPE.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2017-02-11 08:02:29 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Hiasa Kite wrote:

Better NPE

The better NPE is what is wrong with EVE?

Jeez. There's been little bit positive feedback on the improved NPE.

OK, my derp. I appreciate work that's gone in the NPE, but improvements could still be made.

I guess I wrote that more as a list of things I'd change.

"Playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy." -Jonah Gravenstein

Indahmawar Fazmarai
#24 - 2017-02-11 08:33:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
1) The continuous decadence of highsec and PvE and how it's killing EVE
2) The Rubicon development plan
3) CCP's insufficient inteligence gathering on the 5 Ws of their players (What do they do, Who they are, Where do they play, When do they play, Why do they play)

#3 leads to #2 and then #1
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#25 - 2017-02-11 09:26:48 UTC
CCP abandoning HTFU.

Remove standings and insurance.

Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2017-02-11 09:36:18 UTC
The new map, scanner, citadels, all unfinished, buggy or less functional than the existing tools ... for months, years.

A lot of focus is put on fancy stuff than on function, performance and QoL.

Every PD put on NPC AI improvements is wasted resources.

I'm my own NPC alt.

forums
#27 - 2017-02-11 09:38:03 UTC
CCP is obsesses with "diversification" meme and will continue to waste money on failed side projects

Playerbase and devs obsesses with autistic "little things" meme and no big , exciting ideas etc

Voicecomms ruin immersion and remind you that EVE is supposed to be a game but then you remember it's only OK as a game , would be better as an immersive sandbox universe with walking around in station and shooting on planets etc

Indahmawar Fazmarai
#28 - 2017-02-11 10:17:22 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
The new map, scanner, citadels, all unfinished, buggy or less functional than the existing tools ... for months, years.

A lot of focus is put on fancy stuff than on function, performance and QoL.

Every PD put on NPC AI improvements is wasted resources.


Funny fact:

WOW is being developed by 300 developers, and earned maybe as much as 970 million $ in 2016. WOW delivers 1 paid expansion each 18 months, roughly
EVE is being developed by (my guesstimate*) 180 developers, and earned some 60 million $ in 2016. EVE delivers for free continuous updates and released 2 large expansions in 2016

No matter how you account for it, EVE provides amazing bang per buck (even if I don't like the bang and give no buck, I give back to Caesar what is Caesar's)


*CCP haves ~450 employees, of which we must substract the ones employed at Shanghai (~60), Newcastle (~20) and the VR projects (~40??), plus administrative / customer service / et cetera personnel... so I guess that 180 people actually developing EVE is realistic enough.
Trev Baboli
Doomheim
#29 - 2017-02-11 12:44:53 UTC
Ingame music. Don't get wrong, I like what we have. But it's about time we got some fresh new ingame music. Expansions for another game I play occasionally come with hours of complete new music scores. How much new ingame music have we had in the last decade? Trailer scores and login screen music don't count.
Theresa Lamont
Rogue Fleet
#30 - 2017-02-11 13:12:41 UTC
Eve is old! Still a good game ...but old.

An Eve 2.0 with new game mechanics wouldn't be a bad thing.
S-Sha
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2017-02-11 13:28:23 UTC
1. OP
2. OP
3. OP
Takoma Panala
Doomheim
#32 - 2017-02-11 14:15:06 UTC
1 - That EVE is not completely and only about mining
2 - That players are allowed to disrupt other players mining
3 - That players like myself are allowed to make inane replies to threads in this forum.
Wolfgang Jannesen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2017-02-11 14:22:41 UTC
EVE isn't perfect but it's my favourite and I love it. I couldn't point to anything technical, I do think people on the forums are nuts in how they want to see the game develop. Some people treat PvE as if it's some kind of mold choking out low and nullsec life, nullsec people just want to ratt and mine and be safe under the protection of friendly sovereignty, and that hasn't changed in almost a decade. Pirates complain about local and scouts and how PvE exists, Care Bears complain about ganking, they're both wrong to complain in the first place when it's all working as intended.
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#34 - 2017-02-11 14:30:50 UTC
Man, and I thought the salt thread was bitter...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

78 Aster
Perkone
Caldari State
#35 - 2017-02-11 18:26:25 UTC
1.) The hacking minigame using excessive amounts of CPU in some instances (sometimes stopping EvE.exe from responding)

2.) Loot table changes that removed civilian BPC's from starter enemies

3.) the fact that you can't use some civilian items if you are an Alpha

What I believe should be in Eve.... well, I've always thought the idea fun to be able to choose the Drifter "Faction" as your start race, even though it would confine you to a WH unless you get to be a Lancer.

Born Caldari, Raised Minmatar

Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2017-02-11 19:00:39 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


Funny fact: (...)

... EvE is a fantastic game with no competition out there, nevertheless. But things can always be made better. Blink

I'm my own NPC alt.

Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#37 - 2017-02-11 19:14:48 UTC
No ground game!

No room for part timers!

Make NP Empires more active against Low sec and Null Sec!

Attention

Blink

Empire, the next new world order.

000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
#38 - 2017-02-11 20:38:11 UTC
what is wrong with EVE?? ... Everything and nothing tbfh!

For me personally, i would change a few things, but i'm not playing this game alone, i play it with thousands of others, and what would be wonderful for me would horribly suck for others.

But for the sake of arguement.

Wardecking in hi sec. It's a broken system anyways, looking at it from both sides tbfh!

Not a popular statement i know! Lol
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#39 - 2017-02-11 20:51:28 UTC
1. You
2. Those knockers
3. This thread

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...

Ayx Shewma
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2017-02-11 22:16:58 UTC
1. wardecs are broken - opportunity for far more fun if re-implemented properly.

2. bounty system is broken - opportunity for far more fun if re-implemented properly.

3. please focus on fixing old bugs, before introducing piles of new stuff nobody asked for, which causes... more bugs.

BONUS ROOM:

change the garbage ingame map to make it basically exactly the same as dotlan...