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Burn Goons 2017

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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#61 - 2017-02-23 14:58:13 UTC
1Lt Aldo Raine wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
600 bil.


Yes cause we definately let our opponents dicktate where our goals are and how victory is defined. P



I'm not sure of the reason why, but most guys don't like dicktate and are generally against it.
1Lt Aldo Raine
Doomheim
#62 - 2017-02-23 17:55:36 UTC
Burn Jita will begin on Friday after downtime.

Proud member of the High Sec Militia, the combat arm of the Anti-Ganking movement.

Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#63 - 2017-02-23 19:21:27 UTC
1Lt Aldo Raine wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
1Lt Aldo Raine wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
600 bil.


Yes cause we definately let our opponents dicktate where our goals are and how victory is defined. P


Yeah, I don't think you can do it either.


Well I certainly never said that. Question though, do bumping machs and looter freighters killed qualify against the 600 bil? Twisted


I'm being generous here, but sure. Let's see if you can pull it off even by that measure.

I don't think you can.

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Catalytic morphisis
Among Shadows
Shadows of Eden
#64 - 2017-02-24 12:40:08 UTC
Anyone want to set up a Burn Anti-Ganking event and issue everyone a free Smartbombing Abaddon?

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1Lt Aldo Raine
Doomheim
#65 - 2017-02-25 15:20:22 UTC  |  Edited by: 1Lt Aldo Raine
Great work guys!!! Big smile

Initial reports show that the ECM Burst atrons appear to work best with repper support!

For every freighter that takes 3 gank fleets to kill, 2 freighters escape!

Keep giving them hell! Twisted

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elise densi
Kyoto Industries
#66 - 2017-02-25 17:42:07 UTC
Dont look further want to be safe durring Burn Jita buy now hauling premits for Only 25 mil isk per toon !!!! thats right

and be safe durring this entire event without looking over ur shoulder
dont miss out this chance and pm me ingame !!!!
elise densi
Kyoto Industries
#67 - 2017-02-25 17:47:44 UTC
elise densi wrote:
Dont look further want to be safe durring Burn Jita buy now hauling premits for Only 25 mil isk per toon !!!! thats right

and be safe durring this entire event without looking over ur shoulder
dont miss out this chance and pm me ingame !!!!



also wer down to 370 bil destroyed and not even 2 full days in step up AG u can do eet XD
BJBee 9999
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2017-02-26 03:54:49 UTC  |  Edited by: BJBee 9999
BJ4 is in full swing and you will pleased to note that many goons are dying, often, for every carrier, orca, hauler, jump freighter that they gank. I can confirm that many tears are flowing and goons are so busy licking their wounds that they forgetting to set their hisec safeties to green. You guys having such an uber effect that Jita commerce has stopped to a crawl ... they are just watching in awe of your awesomeness. well done, you are winning eve.

p.s. Don't believe Elise ^^. Those are out of date. Only I can sell you the real up-to-date ones.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#69 - 2017-02-26 03:56:52 UTC
BJBee 9999 wrote:
BJ4 is in full swing and you will pleased to note that many goons are dying, often, for every carrier, orca, hauler, jump freighter that they gank. I can confirm that many tears are flowing and goons are so busy licking their wounds that they forgettinbg to set thei hisec safeties to gree. You guys having such an uber effect that Jita commerce has stopped to a crawl ... they are just watching in awe of your awesomeness. well done, you are winning eve.

p.s. Don't believe Elise ^^. Those are out of date. Only I can sell you the real up-to-date ones.

Did I miss something? Don't they all die every single time they gank regardless?

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BJBee 9999
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#70 - 2017-02-26 04:02:17 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:

Did I miss something? Don't they all die every single time they gank regardless?


Hush you
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#71 - 2017-02-26 19:32:36 UTC
Hey Aldo, how's that mach ganking going?

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Lawrence Lawton
The Lawton School for Pubbies Who Can't Mine Good
Novus Ordo.
#72 - 2017-02-26 21:11:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Lawrence Lawton
This year's Burn Jita for Kids has been an umitigated success!

With only 10 hours to go the tally stands at 675 billion ISK destroyed.

I'd like to thank bot-aspirant freighter pilots for not reading the news, especially the ones who donated more than once, and the anti-gankers for failing non-stop daily.
Shout-out to the NewBees for coming down to scary highsec to remind the pubbies of their place at the bottom of the EVE hierarchy.
Praise James 315 and All Hail The Mittani!

--
'It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a bot-aspirant in possession of a good ship, must be in want of a ganking.'

*BJ Continues until DT Monday EVE Time
Tsutomi Sakuma
Antimatter Delivery Systems
#73 - 2017-02-27 06:44:10 UTC
1Lt Aldo Raine wrote:
Random babbling...


https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98477626/kills/

So tell us how effective your efforts have been.
1Lt Aldo Raine
Doomheim
#74 - 2017-02-27 07:35:17 UTC  |  Edited by: 1Lt Aldo Raine
Tsutomi Sakuma wrote:
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98477626/kills/

So tell us how effective your efforts have been.


Here is one save:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LQC1d1xBrFo

We saved as many freighters as we could. Some freighters took 3 of your gank fleets to finally take down which were 2 gank fleets that could have been used for other targets, so logically those were saves as well.

We also know that we were effective by the sudden spike of anonymous fail trolls in the AG channel. I'm glad you guys felt the need to express your frustration. :)

We were outnumbered 20 to 1, and you barely met your goal. Not bad. Before I drop the mike and walk away let me add one more thing.

The High Sec Militia and Silent Infiniyy are the finest, bravest, and most tenacious warriors in all of New Eden. Fighting for what you believe is right and just against overwhelming odds is the very definition of courage. If we had 20 more such warriors this weekend's results would have been completely different.

Can't wait for a rematch! :D

-- The rest of this post is reserved for goons to express their frustration --

Proud member of the High Sec Militia, the combat arm of the Anti-Ganking movement.

Lawrence Lawton
The Lawton School for Pubbies Who Can't Mine Good
Novus Ordo.
#75 - 2017-02-27 08:21:26 UTC
1Lt Aldo Raine wrote:
Tsutomi Sakuma wrote:
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98477626/kills/

So tell us how effective your efforts have been.


Here is one save:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LQC1d1xBrFo

We saved as many freighters as we could. Some freighters took 3 of your gank fleets to finally take down which were 2 gank fleets that could have been used for other targets, so logically those were saves as well.

We also know that we were effective by the sudden spike of anonymous fail trolls in the AG channel. I'm glad you guys felt the need to express your frustration. :)

We were outnumbered 20 to 1, and you barely met your goal. Not bad. Before I drop the mike and walk away let me add one more thing.

The High Sec Militia and Silent Infiniyy are the finest, bravest, and most tenacious warriors in all of New Eden. Fighting for what you believe is right and just against overwhelming odds is the very definition of courage. If we had 20 more such warriors this weekend's results would have been completely different.

Can't wait for a rematch! :D

-- The rest of this post is reserved for goons to express their frustration --

I suppose that as close as it gets to an admission of defeat with you guys.

Good fight! I'll agree that you are tenacious. It's impressive that you guys maintained a presence for much of the weekend in the face of such overwhelming odds. You clearly feel strongly about your cause because anybody else would have gone home.

The ECM burst effectiveness was probably a bit pretty disappointing to you. That's the special technique you were banking your hopes on which we countered with ECCM and awareness. The burst effect was noticeable in a couple of cases though, and was most effective when it was unexpected. We also noticed the dramatic effect it had on sec status of your burst pilots.

We of course believe that any pilot so out of touch with his community as to undock a freighter during a Burn event is unfit to fly a ship. The Goons who are less familiar with highsec couldn't get over how freighters kept flying straight into our nets the whole time.

We destroyed somewhere north of 170 freighters this weekend. The twilight hours of BJ proved fruitful and we far exceeded our ISK goal. We expect the final tally to reach between 750 and 800 billion ISK destroyed once all the capsules and other fringe kills are added up, making this the most destructive Burn event to date.
1Lt Aldo Raine
Doomheim
#76 - 2017-02-27 12:08:59 UTC
Lawrence Lawton wrote:
1Lt Aldo Raine wrote:
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Can't wait for a rematch! :D

I suppose that as close as it gets to an admission of defeat with you guys.

Good fight! I'll agree that you are tenacious. It's impressive that you guys maintained a presence for much of the weekend in the face of such overwhelming odds. You clearly feel strongly about your cause because anybody else would have gone home.

The ECM burst effectiveness was probably a bit pretty disappointing to you. That's the special technique you were banking your hopes on which we countered with ECCM and awareness. The burst effect was noticeable in a couple of cases though, and was most effective when it was unexpected. We also noticed the dramatic effect it had on sec status of your burst pilots.

We of course believe that any pilot so out of touch with his community as to undock a freighter during a Burn event is unfit to fly a ship. The Goons who are less familiar with highsec couldn't get over how freighters kept flying straight into our nets the whole time.

We destroyed somewhere north of 170 freighters this weekend. The twilight hours of BJ proved fruitful and we far exceeded our ISK goal. We expect the final tally to reach between 750 and 800 billion ISK destroyed once all the capsules and other fringe kills are added up, making this the most destructive Burn event to date.



It was a good fight.

Thanks for the feedback as well.

Proud member of the High Sec Militia, the combat arm of the Anti-Ganking movement.

Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#77 - 2017-02-27 21:32:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Galaxy Pig
So by "barely met your goal" do you mean we completely smashed it? Because, in case you didn't notice, we

COMPLETELY SMASHED OUR GOAL.

Anyway, I promised we would adjust the figure based on how many bumping machariels/loot freighters etc. you could destroy, so let's run the numbers:

750-800bil - 0.00 = 750-800bil

Looks like we still totally obliterated our goal, unless I'm missing something.


So AG failed(again), despite their new secret weapon; the ecm burst atron.

Do you hear that? It's the sound of nobody being surprised.

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NotTheSmartestCookie
Shooting Blues Everyday
Gimme Da Loot
#78 - 2017-02-27 22:11:28 UTC
Burn Jita exceeded an - ambitiously set - target of 600B by 25%. The fact that the gank fleet(s) had to take several breaks in order to allow the Jita node and/or Tranquility database sufficient time to recover from the load has had more impact on the number of kills achieved than any effort by AG.

The key to events like these are the organizational skills of Goons - esp. Miniluv - and CODE., as well as the tremendous effort made by the fleet support teams (scanners, bumpers, haulers). And of course it helps if sufficient F1 Monkeys show up.

Despite all the early bluster from AG, during the event they were only able to muster at most a handful of ECM atrons (I think I got jammed once after getting a few shots off) and their lack of organization further reduced the effectiveness of their interference attempts. In many ways AG are like thee 5 year old characters that still solo-mine in a retriever in the highsec asteroid belts. You can try to show them there is greater potential for gameplay in EVE, but they refuse to improve.

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Morrigan Laima
Shooting Blues Everyday
Gimme Da Loot
#79 - 2017-02-27 22:55:48 UTC
The majority of the "Deplorabees" alts we encouraged Goons to create were invited into a corporation to make it easier for them to see fleets and make it easy for us to track kills.

https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98477626/stats/

This means that we have most of the kills of Burn Jita in one place, and can look at numbers.

415 kills, including 20 jump freighters, and 177 freighters. 747 Billion ISK destroyed. There will probably be more kills found and posted over the coming days, as most of us manually post kills.

Being generous here there were less than 20 targets, and probably somewhere between 6-10 that got away and managed to reach safety the entire weekend due to some sort of interference.

That's between 3% and 11% of the freighter traffic, and between 1% and 5% of all the targets . And remember before you start trying to move the goal posts that a lot of the escapes were not due to any action of AG, but simply due to the fatigue of pilots participating in a 72 hour long marathon and making mistakes.

The only things you succeeded at are being annoying, and looking like fools, as always. You don't understand how the game works, you believed Reddit of all place about the CODE. "theft", and most of you never noticed the real story posted on INN Friday morning - people were still saying, thinking, and acting like Burn Jita was canceled halfway through the event.

*golfclaps*

I find it very hard at this point to believe that AG has any interest in helping people - if you did, you'd be trying to improve, you'd be trying to educate, and above all else, you'd make an effort to know how the game's mechanic's work.


Also, as a side note, it was hilarious to see your pilots completely destroying their sec status in a single go with an ECM burst and then killing the target anyway. Nice job. ECM's a horrible gamble in this game, it's why we don't use it in nullsec :)
Morrigan Laima
Shooting Blues Everyday
Gimme Da Loot
#80 - 2017-02-27 23:02:56 UTC
NotTheSmartestCookie wrote:
Burn Jita exceeded an - ambitiously set - target of 600B by 25%. The fact that the gank fleet(s) had to take several breaks in order to allow the Jita node and/or Tranquility database sufficient time to recover from the load has had more impact on the number of kills achieved than any effort by AG.


Something else to note here: The server instabilities we discovered during Burn Jita likely relate to performance issue in the game code that CCP will be able to fix, thereby making the game better for everyone. Every time the node crashed we took the time to reconstruct exactly what we'd been doing beforehand, and we were in touch with CCP via the CSM to make sure they had all the information possible so they can figure out the root cause.