Missions & Complexes

I've played EVE going on 10+ years now but I have never ran missions, I made ISK other ways.

But now I want to try something new when I am not low/null PvPing and station trading. When I am not doing those two I tend to go play another game but sometimes I still feel like playing EVE so I decided why not do missions then, something I've never done, and make decent ISK while doing it.

I have another alt that I don't use much but will use for missions now, it is a perfect subcap pilot, it can fly everything at V except for Marauders (this includes all fitting skills at V, and all weapon skills).

I've grinded up to 5.0+ standing some corps I want to mission with so everything is set (did 1-2s with a light missile jackdaw and 3s with an arty hurricane, very quick and easy)

My question is, with regarding fits, I have absolutely zero idea what tank is needed, I find conflicting info on searches (and there's not that much I find any ways but my google-fu could be failing me).

I have a Rattlesnake RHML fit does deals 1500 DPS and that can omnitank 620 DPS and cap stable @35%, it's not cruise/MJD fit, I really don't like the idea of MJDing and cooldown without using a Marauder since I can use a cheap 60m gist 100mn AB that moves at 360 m/s and it can move around missions faster than triangulating with a MJD on a ship that doesn't have a bonus to its c/d. Fit alone costs a measly 271m, so it's clear of being a gank magnet. It's a bit of a modification of a fit I found a while ago, and the logic behind it originally was sitting still with deployed sentries with RHML when you burned to a point/gate and everything was in range. However that doesn't really seem right to me and heavies would be better for this for when you need to burn towards (or maybe away) with the RHML while shooting and moving?

Fit in question I want to use:


So is 500-600 DPS tank appropriate? I don't want to over tank and neither under tank but somewhere in the middle.

Furthermore since I can't get much info on this, is that enough for the bonus room of Angel Extravaganza?

My only concern is with Blood Raiders and their neuting. Also for more rat-specific tank with Blood Raiders, the above fit you can pull out the two invulns and the 1 shield amplifier, stick two EM hardeners, one thermal hardener and you got more tank, otherwise the invulns are pretty much fine for others.

TL;DR: How much to tank is required to deal with the DPS without being over tanked?

Any other advice/suggestions is welcome.

As long as you watch your triggers and manage aggro you should be fine. If you have any reservations, fit a large micro jump drive instead of the afterburner for the first few runs. You can use that as a "get-out-of-jail-free" card in case you run into trouble.

Thanks for the info, it helps put it into perspective.



Yep I'll be using that eve-survival site, heard about it but never used until now when I blitz'd for grinding standings, very useful. I'll spend some time using a LMJD over a variety of missions to get a feel for it.



Yeah at first I will be trying to mostly just run missions without caring about the loot/salvage and see how I more efficient it is for me preferably to either loot/salvage or make it up with running another mission quickly. Marauders is the only subcap I can't fly simply because I haven't trained the skill since I never needed it and when thinking about it I can see how beneficial it is to use when you loot/salvage.

To me I am not too interested in max optimal ISK per hour because my primary source of income is through station trading which funds my PvP habit rather well, however with missioning it will help with some additional income that I can add on top of that for some even more fancy/blingy PvP fits than what I usually fly, as such I will be experimenting with what I find to run easiest with least effort, not necessarily the most ISK. My aim is for missioning to be a nice "bonus" but not my primary income source.

I am training Marauders to V now so I will definitely give it a try. When marauders is trained I'm going to try that out with what you say with mtu/loot/salvage, see how I like that.

Right now my aim is to see what full clears in the rattle is like, try blitz in a mach, and then also do burner missions which I find really interesting.

My intention right now (and I know this isn't really optimal) with when I mission is the following: If I feel like full clears without salvage/loot, I'll do that (and do another in time it may take for loot/salvage). If I decide to blitz a few, I'll do it in a mach. Every time I get a burner, I'll do that. My reasoning is down to personal reasons that I don't think I could purely do one style of missioning, but vary it up a little.

Since you are already doing station trading and all that, you could always look at running missions for one of the corps that have BPCs that require tags. Alternatively you can, if you don't care about eventually completely pissing off one faction, run main faction missions for the tags. You can supplement your station trading with either the tags or the BPCs or even the finished products.

Either way Marauders will be your best bet if you want to do anything tag related. Apart from that there's a couple of ship fits in my guide for blitzing specifically although the mach and Barghest both are fine for any lv4. Normal mission running the rattler is decent although do keep in mind that the displayed dps with RHML is not the true DPS. The super long reload, small ammo capacity and rapid fire does mean the actual dps over the course of any normal non blitz lv4 is a lot lower. Still the Rattler is up there with the other high dps ships.

Also cap stability and a huge tank is overrated if you don't have connectivity issues or have to go afk regularly. It's fine to sacrifice some tank and cap for better application/mobility/warp & sub-light speed as that's what will bore you the fastest.

if your an experienced pvper mission will be a joke. just manage your cap and ur targets and kill everything.

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Two websites for you:
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReports there is always the information about the damage dealt to you - so you can choose the right kind of tank for that specific mission and the recommended kind of damage you have to deal.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Category:Fittings - some ideas of fittings of the different ships.

If you can put out a really good amount of dps, say in the 1000 dps range then a 300 tank should be enough. Less even if you're moving around a lot and/or know your triggers well. Best thing to do is start with more than you think you'll need and reduce it through experience.